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Village activists push for Islamic state in Central Asia (Kyrgyz group aims for Caliphate)
BBC News ^ | Monday, 8 August 2005

Posted on 08/09/2005 12:19:03 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

The London bombings have prompted the UK government to outlaw Hizb ut Tahrir - a radical Islamic group that wants to replace secular governments with an Islamic Caliphate.

The group is particularly strong in Central Asia.

High in the mountains of poverty-stricken Kyrgyzstan, a bearded man with a fierce gaze slices a watermelon. It is a very colourful sight - red drops of juice on the green carpet, with the glistening snow-covered peaks in the distance.

"In this village, people trust us, not the authorities," says Nur Mohammed, a local leader of Hizb ut Tahrir, which is also banned in Kyrgyzstan.

"Everybody here knows that we will solve their problems quickly and in strict accordance with the Koran. And this suits people a lot better than the slow, bureaucratic and often expensive official route."

The village of Arslanbob is tiny and difficult to reach. From here, it is a two-hour drive to the nearest town.

So people here have always thought it best to solve problems in-house.

"We have already won the battles on prostitution, drink and robbery," says Nur Mohammed.

"All we do is talk to people about the Koran. Sometimes, it requires more than just the skill of persuasion - but in the end, we do come out on top. In our village, nobody even locks their doors now. We've taught people to trust each other - and to respect Sharia law."

But for Hizb ut Tahrir, battles for hearts and minds in small villages like Arslanbob are just routine. The organisation aims much higher.

"All Muslims in the world already want to live in a Caliphate, under Sharia law," he says. "It will be a huge state, a very powerful state. Even now you are all afraid of us - America, Israel, you in the UK too."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caliphate; centralasia; democracy; freedom; hizbuttahrir; islamic; koran; london; russia; secularism; stupidity; uk; village

1 posted on 08/09/2005 12:19:04 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Even now you are all afraid of us - America, Israel, you in the UK too. ...eh excuse me, try to come here with your complete clothing and say those words... i dont know what will happen to you next! There must be a way for these people to stop thinking that they can rule the world...
2 posted on 08/09/2005 12:31:12 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: ChristianDefender
"All Muslims in the world already want to live in a Caliphate, under Sharia law," he says. "It will be a huge state, a very powerful state. Even now you are all afraid of us - America, Israel, you in the UK too."

Target coordinates:

Latitude: 42° 53' North

Longitude: 74° 46' East

Ordnance: Carpet Bombing

Objective: Improve Civilization.

3 posted on 08/09/2005 1:18:39 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Boom...


4 posted on 08/09/2005 1:48:59 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: F14 Pilot

They appear to be similar to the same types of muslims that Russia is fighting right now along their southern 'Central Asian' border. Perhaps the Bear and the Eagle will get together to fight these muslim beasts. Wow. The two nations who fought the cold war. The two nations still armed with thousands of nukes. The free world now knows that we are up against an enemy that is both suicidal and delusional.


5 posted on 08/09/2005 2:00:24 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: ChristianDefender

At least this muslim isn't afraid to proclaim the real goals of Islam around the world.

How long will it take for our governments to realize that this is what islam is, and this has been their goal for the past 1400 years as history proves?


6 posted on 08/09/2005 2:00:57 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: justa-hairyape

Almost forgot the British Lion !


7 posted on 08/09/2005 2:01:39 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: ChristianDefender

I would not be too worried about this particulat bunch.


8 posted on 08/09/2005 2:38:20 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Nathan Zachary
At least this muslim isn't afraid to proclaim the real goals of Islam around the world. ...Indeed, unfortunately the government seems to try to understand these events in a way they want to, not the way these things will certainly happen. Because if they do care just the way our leaders did in the World War II era, Islam would have been an isolated cult these days... or worst history!
9 posted on 08/09/2005 2:54:52 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: CasearianDaoist
I would not be too worried about this particulat bunch. ...i tried to be on your state before though, but i realize then how certain these things will happen if we wont check this out earlier...
10 posted on 08/09/2005 2:57:22 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: justa-hairyape
Perhaps the Bear and the Eagle will get together to fight these muslim beasts. ... or Perhaps the Bear and the Eagle will get together to fight these Camels.
11 posted on 08/09/2005 2:59:05 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: ChristianDefender

Huh?


12 posted on 08/09/2005 3:02:44 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: All

Well lets see here...

There was the Hundred Flowers campaign..
Tianimen Square...
...Homg Komg...
...Taiwan...

Oh yes! I can see the Communist Party
ceding a large sectionof it's territory
to create a muslim caliphate...Yep,,,
The Chinese government is *so* weak...what
*else* can it do?????

Normally i would not be pleased by the
thought of a wide scale massacre...but
these muslims are begging for it...i can't
say i feel sorry for what is likely to happen
to them...they've just made themselves a much
greater threat to Chinese rule, that the Taiwan
independance seekers...because even they want
to still do lots of profitable business with
mainland China.


13 posted on 08/09/2005 3:36:18 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: F14 Pilot

Muslim supremacist rantings combined with the arrogant entitlement to butcher all who disagree are very dangerous.


14 posted on 08/09/2005 3:51:02 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: ncountylee
Target coordinates:

Latitude: 42° 53' North

Longitude: 74° 46' East

Ordnance: Carpet Bombing

Objective: Improve Civilization.

My thoughts exactly!

15 posted on 08/09/2005 3:55:25 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: F14 Pilot

Can't we just kill all these guys and move on with our lives?


16 posted on 08/09/2005 3:56:50 AM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy

I believe we should!


17 posted on 08/09/2005 3:58:51 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
Village activists IDIOTS push for Islamic state in Central Asia (Kyrgyz group aims for Caliphate)
18 posted on 08/09/2005 12:49:06 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: speedy
Can't we just kill all these guys and move on with our lives?

Thanks for posting my thoughts. Really, they have caused so much grief throughout the years that the time has come to put them down in order for civilization to move forward.
19 posted on 08/09/2005 2:19:37 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: BayouCoyote

As Ann Coulter said, there are still a lot of them out there that need to be killed. Sad it has to be that way, it really is. But I don't see us being anywhere near the "live and let live" phase of a relationship yet.


20 posted on 08/09/2005 3:15:53 PM PDT by speedy
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