Skip to comments.THE 9/11 COMMISSION IN MORTAL DANGER
Posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
It behaved disgracefully and in a nakedly partisan fashion, with former officials of the Clinton administration attempting to use the platform to damage the president's reelection chances. Then, after months of ludicrous conduct, out of nowhere came the brilliantly conceived and written report that set a new standard of eloquence and coherence for government documents, became a major bestseller and redeemed the commission's reputation.
Well, that didn't last long.
In a story filed at 7:10 PM, the Associated Press is now confirming all the particulars of what will now forever be called the Able Danger disaster. The 9/11 Commission staff did hear about intelligence-gathering efforts that hit pay dirt on the whereabouts of Mohammed Atta -- in 1999 -- and deliberately chose to omit word of those efforts.
And why? Because to do so might upset the timeline the Commission had established on Atta.
And why is that significant? Because the Mohammed Atta timeline established by the Commission pointedly insisted Atta did not meet with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague.
And why is that significant? Because debunking the Atta-Iraq connection was of vital importance to Democrats, who had become focused almost obsessively on the preposterous notion that there was no relation whatever between Al Qaeda and Iraq -- that Al Qaeda and Iraq might even have been enemies.
I was very skeptical of this Able Danger stuff about Atta, thought it was just sme way Rep. Curt Weldon was trying to sell a book. No longer. This is clearly becoming the biggest story of the summer -- the fact that, as Andy McCarthy alluded to, the "intelligence wall" set up by 9/11 Commissioner Jamie Gorelick when she was in the Justice Department did, in fact, cause the linchpin of the 9/11 attacks to evade capture by American law enforcement.
So was the staff a) protecting the Atta timeline or b) Jamie Gorelick or c) the Clinton administration or d) itself, because it got hold of the information relatively late and the staff was lazy?
More important, what will co-chairmen Tom (pound his fist on the table) Kean and Lee (look sorrowful) Hamilton do and say in the next 36 hours about this calamity?
Yes, Let's hear all about how Sandy Berger ties into this whole mess and DELIBERATELY STOLE NATIONAL ARCHIVE FILES...He and Jamie Gorelick ought to both be hauled into court and sued by Joe American!
Clinton screwed up BAD!!! I really, really hope the right wing pundits spend a lot of time on this. It explains a lot!
"And why is that significant? Because debunking the Atta-Iraq connection was of vital importance to Democrats, who had become focused almost obsessively on the preposterous notion that there was no relation whatever between Al Qaeda and Iraq -- that Al Qaeda and Iraq might even have been enemies."
This is explosive! Can we get the media off Natalie and all the other BS?v This is important!
Got a link to the AP story? I can't find it.
Why did this hit so big now? We were discussing it here during the commission hearings. Did some MSM have a slow news day?
Send Gorelick to Gitmo!!!!!!
How much coverage is this getting with most of the media, or need I even ask?!
Thanks for the ping. I'd been skeptical of the Weldon info a few months ago too, but seeing him discuss this in person on FNC has changed my mind.
CAN YOU SAY CHINA GATE??
If I had a nickel, hell, even a penny, for those of us who thought of Sandy Berger immediately, I would never have to work the rest of my life.
Couldn't have said it better myself, SD!!!!
The "multiple choice" that Podhoretz had in the article?
I choose ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!
FR Archives Search Results.. Sandy Berger and SoxGate
Well...we could e-mail news orgs. and ask them to "explain it" to the American people.
The manner in which the left is trying to play down and write off the AD story tells me there is really something here. Someting very bad for the Clinton administration.
????....stay out of Ft. ______ Park?
We may be finding out now why the Berger hearing on his plea bargain was slipped until September with no real explanation. That plea bargain may have gone up in smoke or he is now ratting out the Clintons and their minions. Throw a dart and take your pick. Either way he had better be in hiding.
The New DemocRAT MOPE Party = Media Obstructionist Partisan Elite Party
"Because the Mohammed Atta timeline established by the Commission pointedly insisted Atta did not meet with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague."
But that did not happen in 1999. It happened, supposedly, in 2001.
The visit to Prague may have been a misidentification. what makes it interesting now is how the Commission's final report, and leaks before it, tried to demean the identification by using...a timeline. Interestingly, the Prague sighting occured during a records-gap of about a week of Atta's travels inside America. The commission essentially ruled since there was no evidence Atta left in that period, he couldn't have left. Very weak. Now we have another dispute about a timeline.
"Anyone doubt what Sandy berger was trying to shove down his pants now?"
Yes. He could have been stealing any number of documents showing his negligence, in hind sight. He wouldn't have been told about a specific Able Danger sighting, so I doubt his conduct has anything to do with that.
Biggest story of the year! Also, what exactly did Sandy Burglar's antics (stolen docs) have to do with this story as well? Hmmmmm?????
What a great description of these two poseurs. Thanks so much for the ping. We suffered through the posturing and the preening and the Bush bashing. Will we now get some truth?
or e) protect Sandy Berger so we don't find out what he was stuffing down his pants or f) all of the above
True, but while I (and anyone) can understand why the Dems on the committee would want to cover this stuff up, what did the Republicans like Lehman---a pretty straight shooter---have to gain by allowing this to be swept under the rug?
I have been listening to the tape delay of Tony Snow's show...and he had a woman caller that kept pressing Tony to promise that he would make sure that the GOP and the media PUSH this story to the prominence that it deserves...
I have heard almost every talk show host allude to this as HUGH and SERIES (like Stellar says)...and that they won't let it go...
SO, WE freepers need to hold their feet to the fire, and make SURE this stays in the headlines...
My goodness, it was a freeper that found out the duplicitousness of Cindy Sheehan, for goodness sake!!!
Agreed -- it is explosive. Therefore, the media will start making excuses and hide the facts. Folks in new media will have to work really really hard to make sure this information gets out to the public, and let the facts tell the story. It is clear that the 9/11 commission was a joke, especially with Ms. Gorelick on it. I know I wrote several emails to the commission requesting that Ms. Gorelick be removed. She was most likely instrumental in ensuring this information was not given to the full commission. This is a cover-up of great magnnitude to make sure that good old BJ (Billy Jeff) Clinton and his co-president, Her Heinous, were not implicated. Old media will not work to uncover this mess.....it is only in the hands of new media. We should write letters to the editor, call, email all the news organizations, and work as hard as possible to make sure that the truth comes to light. The commission's report has been completely undermined with these new facts. They are, as most here suspected, a joke. What did Ben Vineste know and when did he know it?
Link to AP story: http://dsdsdemo2.ap.org/aponline/top_stories/1_ds_1061653.html
Don't forget that Richard Clarke should have known ALL about this at the time it happened (1999-2000). Why was this not in his book?
Wow what a bumper sticker!
They don't have enough time to air this story - they need the slots to air stories about how Bush is on a five week vacation, but can't spare even one hour to meet with the poor Ms. Sheehan.
Still here! LOLOL......
I take out my contact, come back. Talk to Mr. Peach. Come back.
I see insomnia in my future :-)
"He and Jamie Gorelick ought to both be hauled into court and sued..."
?Sued? How about throwing Sandy Berger in jail for undermining American security for starters.
At your service, what shall we do? How can I help Congressman Weldon? This needs to be aired!
He looks like David Gregory on steroids.
Jamie S. Gorelick
Jamie Gorelick is a partner at Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale & Dorr .
Prior to joining Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale & Dorr in July 2003, Gorelick was vice chair of Fannie Mae.
As part of the four-person Office of the Chairman, she shared responsibility for overall management of the company, directed its efforts to reach underserved markets and oversaw Fannie Mae's external relationships, legal and regulatory affairs.
Prior to joining Fannie Mae in May 1997, Gorelick was deputy attorney general of the United States, a position she assumed in March 1994.
From May 1993 until she joined the Justice Department, Gorelick served as general counsel of the Department of Defense.
When the Oil for Food scandal first broke, they said there were names of "prominent Americans" on the pay off list. (think Chinagate?)
Chinagate which was taken off the national stage by Monicagate.
Now I am 100% convinced as I said earlier today that Monica was outed to take the heat off of China and we all fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Ms. Clinton had spies all over the WH so there was no way she didn't know about Monica. Not to mention "Wag the Dog" which just happened to show a firefly (?) girl that was wearing a beret like Monica before the Monica story broke. No coincidence -- all orchestrated is my guess.
Believe we are about to begin to unravel the whole mess with the Co-Presidents going back to before the OKC Bombing. IMHO, all this cover-up was done to get the Clintons back in the WH. Have always said the Florida fiasco was done because they had planned to have Al Gore elected and bury everything -- they needed time to destroy incriminating evidence but looks like they forgot DoD. That is also why the Bush Team in 2000 IMO were not allowed to move into the transition quarters until very late and why the RATs took so long to approve Bush appointees -- gave the Clintonites time to destroy files, etc.
This is the biggest story since 19 hijackers flew planes into the WTC towers, the Pentagon and crashed into a Pennsylvania field.
The libs have been right all along ... there was a cover-up, the American people have been lied to. Of course, they were wrong about who was covering up, why and who was lying. But those are just details...
Thanks - I thought he was referring to 7:10 pm today.
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