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THE 9/11 COMMISSION IN MORTAL DANGER
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | 08/11/05 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

It behaved disgracefully and in a nakedly partisan fashion, with former officials of the Clinton administration attempting to use the platform to damage the president's reelection chances. Then, after months of ludicrous conduct, out of nowhere came the brilliantly conceived and written report that set a new standard of eloquence and coherence for government documents, became a major bestseller and redeemed the commission's reputation.

Well, that didn't last long.

In a story filed at 7:10 PM, the Associated Press is now confirming all the particulars of what will now forever be called the Able Danger disaster. The 9/11 Commission staff did hear about intelligence-gathering efforts that hit pay dirt on the whereabouts of Mohammed Atta -- in 1999 -- and deliberately chose to omit word of those efforts.

And why? Because to do so might upset the timeline the Commission had established on Atta.

And why is that significant? Because the Mohammed Atta timeline established by the Commission pointedly insisted Atta did not meet with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague.

And why is that significant? Because debunking the Atta-Iraq connection was of vital importance to Democrats, who had become focused almost obsessively on the preposterous notion that there was no relation whatever between Al Qaeda and Iraq -- that Al Qaeda and Iraq might even have been enemies.

I was very skeptical of this Able Danger stuff about Atta, thought it was just sme way Rep. Curt Weldon was trying to sell a book. No longer. This is clearly becoming the biggest story of the summer -- the fact that, as Andy McCarthy alluded to, the "intelligence wall" set up by 9/11 Commissioner Jamie Gorelick when she was in the Justice Department did, in fact, cause the linchpin of the 9/11 attacks to evade capture by American law enforcement.

So was the staff a) protecting the Atta timeline or b) Jamie Gorelick or c) the Clinton administration or d) itself, because it got hold of the information relatively late and the staff was lazy?

More important, what will co-chairmen Tom (pound his fist on the table) Kean and Lee (look sorrowful) Hamilton do and say in the next 36 hours about this calamity?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; abledanger; atta; attagate; berger; clarke; clintonlegacy; coverup; gorelick; podhoretz; rockefellermemo; sandyberger; treason
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The best summary I've read yet about this massive coverup. Anyone doubt what Sandy berger was trying to shove down his pants now?
1 posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: TonyInOhio; Peach; sheik yerbouty; NormsRevenge; Travis McGee; writer33; TAquinas; montag813
I'm sure I havent been the first to say it but....

This is HUGH and SERIES!!!!!!!


2 posted on 08/11/2005 6:00:22 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The meaning of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: TonyInOhio; rintense; MJY1288; RedBloodedAmerican; twyn1; kitkat; justshe; ladyinred; lonestar; ...
And why is that significant? Because debunking the Atta-Iraq connection was of vital importance to Democrats, who had become focused almost obsessively on the preposterous notion that there was no relation whatever between Al Qaeda and Iraq -- that Al Qaeda and Iraq might even have been enemies.

PING

3 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:18 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: TonyInOhio

Yes, Let's hear all about how Sandy Berger ties into this whole mess and DELIBERATELY STOLE NATIONAL ARCHIVE FILES...He and Jamie Gorelick ought to both be hauled into court and sued by Joe American!


4 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:26 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: TonyInOhio
Anyone doubt what Sandy berger was trying to shove down his pants now?

Clinton screwed up BAD!!! I really, really hope the right wing pundits spend a lot of time on this. It explains a lot!

5 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:28 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: TonyInOhio

"And why is that significant? Because debunking the Atta-Iraq connection was of vital importance to Democrats, who had become focused almost obsessively on the preposterous notion that there was no relation whatever between Al Qaeda and Iraq -- that Al Qaeda and Iraq might even have been enemies."

This is explosive! Can we get the media off Natalie and all the other BS?v This is important!


6 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:53 PM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: TonyInOhio

Got a link to the AP story? I can't find it.


7 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:11 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: TonyInOhio

Why did this hit so big now? We were discussing it here during the commission hearings. Did some MSM have a slow news day?


8 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:16 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: TonyInOhio

Send Gorelick to Gitmo!!!!!!


9 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:20 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The meaning of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: TonyInOhio

How much coverage is this getting with most of the media, or need I even ask?!


10 posted on 08/11/2005 6:02:21 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Thanks for the ping. I'd been skeptical of the Weldon info a few months ago too, but seeing him discuss this in person on FNC has changed my mind.


11 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:04 PM PDT by Peach
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To: TonyInOhio
So was the staff a) protecting the Atta timeline or b) Jamie Gorelick or c) the Clinton administration or d) itself, because it got hold of the information relatively late and the staff was lazy?

CAN YOU SAY CHINA GATE??

12 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:06 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: TonyInOhio

If I had a nickel, hell, even a penny, for those of us who thought of Sandy Berger immediately, I would never have to work the rest of my life.


13 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:21 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Couldn't have said it better myself, SD!!!!

The "multiple choice" that Podhoretz had in the article?

I choose ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!


14 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Our troops deserve better than they get from the MSM and the libs!!!)
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To: TonyInOhio

Abledangergate?


15 posted on 08/11/2005 6:03:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: TonyInOhio
Shades of the Single Bullet theory and the Warren Commission. :-o

FR Archives Search Results.. Sandy Berger and SoxGate

16 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: BonnieJ
How much coverage is this getting with most of the media, or need I even ask?!

Well...we could e-mail news orgs. and ask them to "explain it" to the American people.

17 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:30 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: TonyInOhio

The manner in which the left is trying to play down and write off the AD story tells me there is really something here. Someting very bad for the Clinton administration.


18 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:57 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: TonyInOhio; Peach
????....THE 9/11 COMMISSION IN MORTAL DANGER ....????

Whoooaaah

????....stay out of Ft. ______ Park?

19 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:03 PM PDT by maestro
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To: TonyInOhio

20 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:09 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: princess leah

We may be finding out now why the Berger hearing on his plea bargain was slipped until September with no real explanation. That plea bargain may have gone up in smoke or he is now ratting out the Clintons and their minions. Throw a dart and take your pick. Either way he had better be in hiding.


21 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: TonyInOhio

http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/bio_gorelick.htm


22 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:46 PM PDT by jimbo123
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The New DemocRAT MOPE Party = Media Obstructionist Partisan Elite Party


Death , Dishonor, Destruction

Clintoon's 3D Legacy?

GORELICK GATE: Developing... Thx Backhoe!

FR Archives Search Results for Gorelick Wall


Yahoo Search Results for Gorelick Wall


23 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: TonyInOhio

"Because the Mohammed Atta timeline established by the Commission pointedly insisted Atta did not meet with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague."

But that did not happen in 1999. It happened, supposedly, in 2001.

The visit to Prague may have been a misidentification. what makes it interesting now is how the Commission's final report, and leaks before it, tried to demean the identification by using...a timeline. Interestingly, the Prague sighting occured during a records-gap of about a week of Atta's travels inside America. The commission essentially ruled since there was no evidence Atta left in that period, he couldn't have left. Very weak. Now we have another dispute about a timeline.

"Anyone doubt what Sandy berger was trying to shove down his pants now?"

Yes. He could have been stealing any number of documents showing his negligence, in hind sight. He wouldn't have been told about a specific Able Danger sighting, so I doubt his conduct has anything to do with that.


24 posted on 08/11/2005 6:05:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TonyInOhio

Biggest story of the year! Also, what exactly did Sandy Burglar's antics (stolen docs) have to do with this story as well? Hmmmmm?????


25 posted on 08/11/2005 6:06:14 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: Mo1
what will co-chairmen Tom (pound his fist on the table) Kean and Lee (look sorrowful) Hamilton do and say in the next 36 hours about this calamity?

What a great description of these two poseurs. Thanks so much for the ping. We suffered through the posturing and the preening and the Bush bashing. Will we now get some truth?

26 posted on 08/11/2005 6:06:22 PM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: TonyInOhio
So was the staff a) protecting the Atta timeline or b) Jamie Gorelick or c) the Clinton administration or d) itself, because it got hold of the information relatively late and the staff was lazy?

or e) protect Sandy Berger so we don't find out what he was stuffing down his pants or f) all of the above

27 posted on 08/11/2005 6:07:04 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: Stellar Dendrite

True, but while I (and anyone) can understand why the Dems on the committee would want to cover this stuff up, what did the Republicans like Lehman---a pretty straight shooter---have to gain by allowing this to be swept under the rug?


28 posted on 08/11/2005 6:07:56 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: TonyInOhio
WHY???? What was in it for liberals to protect Saddam???
Had they secretly promised Europe they would not interrupt the UN Oil for rotten Food program. What role was Russia playing?

Those Euros were hoping to become somebody during Clintons reign.
29 posted on 08/11/2005 6:08:14 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: BonnieJ

I have been listening to the tape delay of Tony Snow's show...and he had a woman caller that kept pressing Tony to promise that he would make sure that the GOP and the media PUSH this story to the prominence that it deserves...

I have heard almost every talk show host allude to this as HUGH and SERIES (like Stellar says)...and that they won't let it go...

SO, WE freepers need to hold their feet to the fire, and make SURE this stays in the headlines...

My goodness, it was a freeper that found out the duplicitousness of Cindy Sheehan, for goodness sake!!!


30 posted on 08/11/2005 6:08:44 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Our troops deserve better than they get from the MSM and the libs!!!)
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To: defconw

Agreed -- it is explosive. Therefore, the media will start making excuses and hide the facts. Folks in new media will have to work really really hard to make sure this information gets out to the public, and let the facts tell the story. It is clear that the 9/11 commission was a joke, especially with Ms. Gorelick on it. I know I wrote several emails to the commission requesting that Ms. Gorelick be removed. She was most likely instrumental in ensuring this information was not given to the full commission. This is a cover-up of great magnnitude to make sure that good old BJ (Billy Jeff) Clinton and his co-president, Her Heinous, were not implicated. Old media will not work to uncover this mess.....it is only in the hands of new media. We should write letters to the editor, call, email all the news organizations, and work as hard as possible to make sure that the truth comes to light. The commission's report has been completely undermined with these new facts. They are, as most here suspected, a joke. What did Ben Vineste know and when did he know it?


31 posted on 08/11/2005 6:09:27 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: Chi-townChief

Link to AP story: http://dsdsdemo2.ap.org/aponline/top_stories/1_ds_1061653.html


32 posted on 08/11/2005 6:09:37 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: TonyInOhio

Don't forget that Richard Clarke should have known ALL about this at the time it happened (1999-2000). Why was this not in his book?


33 posted on 08/11/2005 6:10:18 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: SittinYonder

ping


34 posted on 08/11/2005 6:10:38 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Refill with only real Kikkoman Soy Sauce)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Gorelick to Gitmo!!!!!!

Wow what a bumper sticker!

35 posted on 08/11/2005 6:11:11 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: BonnieJ

They don't have enough time to air this story - they need the slots to air stories about how Bush is on a five week vacation, but can't spare even one hour to meet with the poor Ms. Sheehan.


36 posted on 08/11/2005 6:11:15 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Peach

Still here! LOLOL......


37 posted on 08/11/2005 6:11:16 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Mo1

kewl


38 posted on 08/11/2005 6:11:38 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Fl. The lightning capital of the world!)
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To: OldFriend

I take out my contact, come back. Talk to Mr. Peach. Come back.

I see insomnia in my future :-)


39 posted on 08/11/2005 6:11:54 PM PDT by Peach
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To: TonyInOhio
Podhoretz raises significant questions that require answers. If the 9/11 Commission's findings were as important as touted by its members, then it is absolutely essential we get the facts right. Major changes to restructure the U.S. intelligence effort have been made based on the Commission's conclusions, which appear in retrospect to be deeply flawed.
40 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:01 PM PDT by OESY
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To: TonyInOhio
President Bush must jump out in front of this...and soon. His administration, leaders of the GOP as well as Demonrat leaders have all been saying for years now...that the 9/11 attacks could not have been prevented. We see now that Able Dangers' information could have stopped the attacks if acted on. Deportation, brought in for questioning, or surveillance of Atta may have disrupted their plans to the point of stopping the attacks.

W needs to demand full investigations at all levels of government immediately. Or the chants of Bush lied will just grow louder from the left and their allies in the MSM.

Bush needs to get out front...AND NOW !

JMHO

JEDI
41 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:02 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: princess leah

"He and Jamie Gorelick ought to both be hauled into court and sued..."

?Sued? How about throwing Sandy Berger in jail for undermining American security for starters.


42 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:02 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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To: Laverne

At your service, what shall we do? How can I help Congressman Weldon? This needs to be aired!


43 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:12 PM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: TonyInOhio
The Gorelick article index
44 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:45 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: The South Texan

He looks like David Gregory on steroids.


45 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:49 PM PDT by Thebaddog (How's yer dawgs?)
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To: Paladin2

http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/bio_gorelick.htm

Jamie S. Gorelick
Commissioner

Jamie Gorelick is a partner at Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale & Dorr .

Prior to joining Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale & Dorr in July 2003, Gorelick was vice chair of Fannie Mae.

As part of the four-person Office of the Chairman, she shared responsibility for overall management of the company, directed its efforts to reach underserved markets and oversaw Fannie Mae's external relationships, legal and regulatory affairs.

Prior to joining Fannie Mae in May 1997, Gorelick was deputy attorney general of the United States, a position she assumed in March 1994.

From May 1993 until she joined the Justice Department, Gorelick served as general counsel of the Department of Defense.


46 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:50 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Just mythoughts
WHY???? What was in it for liberals to protect Saddam???

When the Oil for Food scandal first broke, they said there were names of "prominent Americans" on the pay off list. (think Chinagate?)

47 posted on 08/11/2005 6:12:56 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Mo1

Chinagate which was taken off the national stage by Monicagate.

Now I am 100% convinced as I said earlier today that Monica was outed to take the heat off of China and we all fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Ms. Clinton had spies all over the WH so there was no way she didn't know about Monica. Not to mention "Wag the Dog" which just happened to show a firefly (?) girl that was wearing a beret like Monica before the Monica story broke. No coincidence -- all orchestrated is my guess.

Believe we are about to begin to unravel the whole mess with the Co-Presidents going back to before the OKC Bombing. IMHO, all this cover-up was done to get the Clintons back in the WH. Have always said the Florida fiasco was done because they had planned to have Al Gore elected and bury everything -- they needed time to destroy incriminating evidence but looks like they forgot DoD. That is also why the Bush Team in 2000 IMO were not allowed to move into the transition quarters until very late and why the RATs took so long to approve Bush appointees -- gave the Clintonites time to destroy files, etc.


48 posted on 08/11/2005 6:13:01 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: eyespysomething

This is the biggest story since 19 hijackers flew planes into the WTC towers, the Pentagon and crashed into a Pennsylvania field.

The libs have been right all along ... there was a cover-up, the American people have been lied to. Of course, they were wrong about who was covering up, why and who was lying. But those are just details...


49 posted on 08/11/2005 6:13:08 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Cautor

Thanks - I thought he was referring to 7:10 pm today.


50 posted on 08/11/2005 6:13:16 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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