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WHAT IS BEHIND THE GROWING TENSION IN RUSSIAN-POLISH RELATIONS?
Eurasia Daily Monitor ^ | Friday, August 12, 2005 | Igor Torbakov

Posted on 08/12/2005 11:03:54 AM PDT by lizol

WHAT IS BEHIND THE GROWING TENSION IN RUSSIAN-POLISH RELATIONS?

By Igor Torbakov

Friday, August 12, 2005

Recent Discord in Russian-Polish Relations The relationship between Moscow and Warsaw, never particularly easy throughout the last decade, appears to have degraded to the level of fistfights. Exactly a week after the July 31 mugging of three teenage sons of Russian diplomats in a Warsaw park, a Polish embassy employee was beaten in Moscow on August 7. A second embassy employee was attacked on August 10.

Russian President Vladimir Putin was quick to publicly denounce the Warsaw incident as "an unfriendly act that cannot be characterized as anything other than a crime." Shortly after Putin spoke, the Russian Foreign Ministry demanded a formal apology and claimed that anti-Russian attitudes had inspired the attack. The Polish Foreign Ministry instead expressed deep regret over the incident, said it was a case of common hooliganism, and promised to find the attackers. But after a telecommunications worker in the Polish embassy's technical department was attacked last Sunday, it was Warsaw's turn to make appeals. On August 8, the Polish embassy asked Russian authorities for an explanation. In a diplomatic note to Russia's Foreign Ministry, the Polish embassy called the attack "unacceptable" and requested that "all necessary measures" be taken to secure the safety of embassy and consulate employees." A Moscow police spokesman said it was unlikely that the incident was politically motivated, commenting, "It looks more like a random attack."

The recent nasty incidents seem to reflect the dramatic souring of relations between the two East European neighbors and perennial geopolitical competitors. Indeed, the present poor state of relations between Russia and Poland has plenty of historical precedents. Some Poles, for example, take pride in the fact that their ancestors were the first ones to occupy the Kremlin in the beginning of the 17th century -- two hundred years before Napoleon's Grande Armee managed to repeat the feat, if only for a much shorter period of time. Symptomatically, in Russia not long ago, the national day celebration was switched from November 7, commemorating the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, to November 4, when the Russian forces rid the Kremlin of the occupying Poles.

The present-day mutual irritation can easily be discerned in the recent exchange in Warsaw reported by the Polish media. While on a visit to the Polish capital, the Kremlin spin-doctor Gleb Pavlovsky asserted, "The Poles talk about Russians the way anti-Semites talk about Jews." Poland's foreign minister, Adam Rotfeld, replied, "You are looking for an enemy and you find it in Poland."

The historically tangled relations between Russia and Poland started sharply deteriorating at the end of last year, when Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski spoke against the rigged presidential election in Ukraine and subsequently played a key role in settling the Ukrainian political crisis in favor of the pro-Western contender, Viktor Yushchenko. Following the victory of Ukraine's Orange Revolution, the public rhetoric in both Moscow and Warsaw took on an embittered and, at times, even accusatory tone. First, Kwasniewski stepped on the Kremlin's toe when he openly questioned the democratic nature of contemporary Russia. Then Putin, at his traditional end-of-the-year news conference, rudely advised his Polish counterpart to mind his own business instead of lecturing Russia on democracy. Concrete actions soon followed the angry words. The official Russian commission investigating the infamous 1940 Katyn massacre of thousands of Polish officers by Stalinist troops issued a ruling that caused outrage in Poland. The commission determined that the massacre was not a crime against humanity or a war crime, but an ordinary criminal act. The Poles were infuriated anew when the Russians then refused to open their archives to a Polish commission of inquiry.

Last May, when Kwasniewski visited Moscow to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany, he was given what the Poles considered to be an intentionally conspicuous second-class treatment. The frictions intensified further when, in late June, Putin invited German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and French President Jacques Chirac to celebrate the 750th anniversary of the founding of Konigsberg/Kaliningrad, but not the leaders of Poland and Lithuania -- the countries that border the tiny Russian exclave.

As some Russian analysts note, the Kremlin regards Poland not only as a major factor in the triumph of the Orange Revolution in Kyiv but also as a key geopolitical "link in the ‘tier of unfriendly states' that is being formed along Russia's western borders from the Baltics to Ukraine."

For a number of Polish and Russian commentators, Warsaw's active role in the 2004 Ukrainian political upheaval that ended in what Moscow perceives as its largest strategic defeat is but an element of a broader trend. The Kremlin views last year's sweeping eastward expansion of the European Union, and especially the emergence of the "Eastern Dimension" sponsored by Poland, as a serious geopolitical threat -- particularly due to the perceived "tendency of selectively offering partnership arrangements" to the countries sandwiched between Russia and United Europe. "There exists a widespread feeling in Russia," one commentary argues, "that Poland is reluctant to accept the common rules of the game and is eager to distinguish Ukraine (and potentially Moldova and Belarus) from other eastern neighbors, which transfers the whole issue to the domain of power politics."

(Rossiiskiye vesti, February 17; Gazeta.ru, May 12, August 8, New York Times, July 3, Moscow Times, August 9)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: easterneurope; poland; russia
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1 posted on 08/12/2005 11:03:57 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
WHAT IS BEHIND THE GROWING TENSION IN RUSSIAN-POLISH RELATIONS?

History.

2 posted on 08/12/2005 11:04:45 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

A thousand years of history.


3 posted on 08/12/2005 11:05:42 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: lizol
WHAT IS BEHIND THE GROWING TENSION IN RUSSIAN-POLISH RELATIONS?

Cod-piece burn.

4 posted on 08/12/2005 11:08:06 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: ALL ARUBA ALL THE TIME)
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To: lizol
When the Poles attack Russians they call it hoogalism, but when the Russians attack the Poles they call it a KGB planned attack.
5 posted on 08/12/2005 11:24:42 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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Is it?

From press accounts the attacks on the Russian kids sounds like street thugs attacked them.

The attacks on the Polish embassy employees sound like payback.


7 posted on 08/12/2005 11:56:31 AM PDT by marron
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To: Chevy Sales
democracy .Poland has it and Russia don't.

You couldn't be more wrong. The Poles still are ruled by the communist party under a new name. Russia is NOT communist. I say that because we maintain a second home in Volgograd, and I have seen the country in action.
8 posted on 08/12/2005 11:57:40 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
When some Polish thugs attack Russians in one of Warsaw parks (once in 10 years), and steal mobile phones from them - the Russian President calls it a crime (which is true) an act of planned anti-Russian agression (which is total BS) and demands formal apology from Polish authorities
But when some Russians attack in Moscow Polish diplomatic personnel and a Polish journalist fourth time in a row, day by day, in a similar way, similar circumstances, similar place - some low rank Russian MFA offical calls it hooliganism.
9 posted on 08/12/2005 12:02:36 PM PDT by lizol
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To: marron
From press accounts the attacks on the Russian kids sounds like street thugs attacked them.
The attacks on the Polish embassy employees sound like payback.


If you knew anything about Russia, then you would know they do have a problem with hoogalism in Moscow. You should also look at the attitude of Polish hatred towards Russia, which goes back hundreds of years, and can be found on this board. You do not find the same attitude among the Russians.
10 posted on 08/12/2005 12:04:13 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Yes, I think you're absolutely right - that mugging of 3 Russian youngsters in Warsaw had nothing to do with a regular robbery and hooliganism, that may happen to everyone walking down the park in the evening. It was an eruption of anti-Russian hatred growing in Poland for "back hundreds of years". It simply bursted in a Warsaw park.

Whereas 3 cases of beating Poles in Moscow, and 1 case of beating a Russian driver working for the Polish embassy during last week were just pure coincidence.

Being sarcastic of course.
11 posted on 08/12/2005 12:11:58 PM PDT by lizol
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To: ValenB4; anonymoussierra; Freelance Warrior; kedr; Sober 4 Today; BrooklynGOP; ...

ping


12 posted on 08/12/2005 12:12:03 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandry wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: GarySpFc
Oh yes, definitely.
And we still scream and cry under communist oppression.
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
13 posted on 08/12/2005 12:13:21 PM PDT by lizol
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To: GarySpFc
" You should also look at the attitude of Polish hatred towards Russia, which goes back hundreds of years, and can be found on this board. You do not find the same attitude among the Russians."

The rapist usually harbors no particular hatred towards the rapee after the fact.

The rapee usually feels a tad more hate towards the rapist.
14 posted on 08/12/2005 12:28:09 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Patherman

I am hardly a fool, and we have many Russian friends. I have found the majority of them to be very warm and loyal, and some of the best people I have ever met. Outside of the men drinking too much vodka they are very much like Americans.


16 posted on 08/12/2005 12:50:12 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Patherman
Only a fool would trust a Russian. At any time. About anything.

I see you just signed up for Free Republic 8/12/2005.
17 posted on 08/12/2005 12:51:34 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Reaganez
The rapist usually harbors no particular hatred towards the rapee after the fact.
The rapee usually feels a tad more hate towards the rapist.


You are not looking beyond your nose for the rapist. Poland occupied a major part of Russia for over 300 years.
18 posted on 08/12/2005 12:53:45 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

You know, the Polish attitude towards Russians is a lot like that of the Palies towards the Israelies. If either the Russians or the Israelies were half as bad as what the Poles & Palies, respectively, call them, there wouldn't be any Poles or Palies left on this planet.


19 posted on 08/12/2005 2:08:48 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandry wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Reaganez

In which case, how should the Russians feel about Poland who invaded them when the Rus asked for help from the Mongols. Poland sat on Russian lands until the 1700s, for 500 years. Between 1603-1613, Polish forces captured Moscow 3 times & burned down the city once. Hmmm, how should the Russians feel?


20 posted on 08/12/2005 2:10:38 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandry wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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