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9/11 PANEL: ATTA TALE WAS BUM TIP
NY Post ^ | 8/13/05 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 08/13/2005 4:35:41 AM PDT by jimbo123

The 9/11 commission yesterday defended its decision to ignore a Navy officer's report that military spies targeted lead hijacker Mohamed Atta more than a year before the attacks — and claimed the Navy man wasn't "sufficiently credible."

The statement from commission chiefs Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton came after a flip-flop, in which the panel's staff first denied and then admitted it was told Pentagon spies had linked Atta to an al Qaeda cell in New York in 2000.

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"The commission's staff concluded that the officer's account was not sufficiently reliable to warrant revision of the report or further investigation."

A skeptical Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) said the statement does nothing to answer why the Able Danger warning wasn't passed on to the FBI.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; abledanger; atta; gorelick
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To: Peach

I had never heard this. Thanks for the link. I bookmarked to read in it's entirey later. Looks quite interesting.


121 posted on 08/13/2005 10:07:18 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Peach

Just a quick snippet from Peter Lance, author and reporter, on the 9/11 Commission:

As soon as I heard Snell’s name I suspected that what my source had been telling me was true: that the Commission staff was limiting the scope of the investigation and cherry picking evidence.

Snell had been the Assistant U.S. attorney who co-prosecuted Ramzi Yousef for the “Bojinka” case in 1996. In my first book 1000 Years For Revenge I recounted how the Justice Department, during Snell’s tenure, had limited the scope of the Bojinka case.


122 posted on 08/13/2005 10:13:49 AM PDT by Peach
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To: popdonnelly; montag813

I think W is a good president, and I voted for him twice and worked very hard on his campaigns, but I will never understand why he does not call Clinton and the Dems to account. If it were simply a matter of not wanting to appear vindictive, I could understand it.

But the problem is that the Clinton influence lingers - and lingered particularly heavily during Bush's first term, because he didn't replace a lot of Clinton's treasonous appointees - and will be with us until Bush gets the guts to have a serious investigation, root out the moles and outright traitors, and deal with them accordingly.


123 posted on 08/13/2005 10:21:09 AM PDT by livius
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To: jwalsh07

When Jamie Gorelick was appointed to the 911 Commission, that should have raised flags all over the place that it was a fake and a ruse from the beginning. Not one iota of anything but political grandstanding and trying to blame the Bush administration for the massive failures of the Clintoon administration!


124 posted on 08/13/2005 10:26:51 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Peach
Rep. Curt Weldon said today on Fox News that there are 15 unexamined boxes of documents and now 11 witnesses (NOT just 1) who are willing to testify under oath. He also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindednes, &/or oceover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling.
125 posted on 08/13/2005 10:36:18 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: Peach

"The statement from commission chiefs Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton came after a flip-flop, in which the panel's staff first denied and then admitted it was told Pentagon spies had linked Atta to an al Qaeda cell in New York in 2000."

Members from the commission are caught lieing, first saying they were never told and then changes their story to the Navy isn't "credible".

If they want to see credibility problems, they should look in the mirror.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


126 posted on 08/13/2005 10:37:02 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"Send Gorelick to Gitmo"

And we don't mean on a Carnival Cruise, either.


127 posted on 08/13/2005 10:39:22 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Libertarian444

Rep. Curt Weldon said today on Fox News that there are 15 unexamined boxes of documents(!), and now 11 witnesses(!!), (NOT just 1), who are willing to testify under oath.

He also is calling for 9/11 Staffers to be questioned under oath re: their evident negligence, &/or close-mindedness, &/or cover-up behavior, and/or stonewalling.


128 posted on 08/13/2005 10:41:39 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: jimbo123

bump


129 posted on 08/13/2005 10:42:49 AM PDT by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: FReethesheeples

That is incredible.. This is getting bigger and bigger by the moment.


130 posted on 08/13/2005 10:44:13 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: freeperfromnj

Not "historically significant"?

The US military was trying to get 4 of the hijackers arrested over 6 months BEFORE their attack, yet they couldn't pass the info to the FBI because of the policies in place. This isn't "historically significant"?

As far as I'm concerned, the 9/11 Commission Report is now useless. It is CLEAR that this commission was, and still is, only interested in whitewashing and protecting the powerful who's screw ups led to 3,000 Americans being murdered.


131 posted on 08/13/2005 10:53:46 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: tutstar


Kean and Gorelick were covering things up from the beginning.
132 posted on 08/13/2005 10:57:56 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Where did Keane and Hamilton get the authority to decide, in absolute secrecy, that a Navy officer's testimony wasn't credible? Compared to who? Richard Clarke?

If Able Danger really did know about Atta, than someone in the Pentagon transition team left a big booby trap for Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld should be really pi$$ed about that.


133 posted on 08/13/2005 11:03:25 AM PDT by yoswif
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To: Peach

I came to the conclusion long ago that the Clinton WH and their political operations were run like a criminal syndicate.

At every agency, in every department, were key POLITICAL OPERATIVES....or so called COMPANY MEN. This is how to look at people like Gorelick, Berger, Linsey, O'Leary, Ron Brown, etc etc..and their underlings...the many faceless, nameless lawyers who permeated FBI, CIA, DOD, State Dept, etc. There are also outside COMPANY MEN... Ickes, Blumenthal..etc etc.

All operations were coordinated and operated in a top down flow. This means that operatives like Gorelick and Berger were part of a protocol of passing directives from either CAPO Bubba or CAPO Hillary down through the command chain.

When critical info in the archives had to be destroyed...they went to Sandy. Bruce Linsey would also have sufficed...but he didnt have the top top clearances that Sandy had..(and will have again just in time for Hillarys WH campaign).

Grunts in the security trenches in FBI and CIA who werent part of the 'team' felt threatened and in some cases witheld info from a Clinton WH they didnt trust.

Woolsey figured out the game early on...he quit.


134 posted on 08/13/2005 11:10:34 AM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: freeperfromnj
He was just on Fox News with Brian Wilson. He said he wants to "put the Commission and their staff under oath to see who's telling the truth and who isn't"

Thanks! That sounds good.

But the appointment of a special prosecutor would sound better.

135 posted on 08/13/2005 11:22:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: jimbo123
"...the Navy man wasn't "sufficiently credible."

- Oh yeah, the old "shoot the messenger defense". This smear tactic was first run by us against the half dozen women or so who claimed that "BJ" Clinton was guilty of offenses ranging from sexual harassment to groping to rape.
In this case, I don't think it's going to be quite so effective, especially if the Able Danger officers kept notes of the meetings they attended with Commission staff.
If they did, Gore-lick cannot be enjoying her weekend very much as she sweats out if the other shoe will drop.
(PS - I'd love to see a record of Gore-licks phone calls since all this started. I bet you'd see many calls to/from Clinton, Reno, Begala, Carville the New York Times et al as they get their stories straight and coordinate the spin efforts.)
136 posted on 08/13/2005 11:23:30 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: All
The 9-11 Commission was the second report on circumstances and events.

"THE REPORT OF THE JOINT INQUIRY INTO THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 - BY THE HOUSE PEMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE AND THE SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE OF INTELLIGENCE" is the title of the original Governmental Report. It is dated December 2, 2002. It can be found on the web in its' entirety.

Here are a couple of quotes: "On January 15, 2000, one week after leaving Malaysia, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaff al-Hamzi flew to Los Angeles from Bangkok and settled in the San Diego area."

"Atta returned to Germany from Afghanistan through Pakistan in February 2000. CLAIMING THAT HIS PASSPORT HAD BEEN LOST, Atta obtained a new Egyptian passport in Hamburg in May 2000 and a visa to travel to the US".

"Al-Shehhi had arrived several days earlier".

"Atta and al-Shehhi STAYED IN THE NEW YORK AREA, renting apartments together until the beginning of July." (Then they went to Florida.)

This is the first that I see that acknowledges they were LIVING in the New York area for a while and must be the ABLE intelligence. This should be in "Jamie's Report".

137 posted on 08/13/2005 11:29:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: FReethesheeples
15 unexamined boxes of documents(!)

Hey Sandy Bergler, is that a box in your 'socks' or are you that glad to see me????
138 posted on 08/13/2005 11:30:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: jimbo123

So, we're either going to believe politicians on the 9/11 Commission (which included Gorelick), or I'm supposed to believe a Naval Officer whose background has been investigated nine ways from Sunday and who serves our country for far too little pay and who is backed up by (according to Representative Weldon) at least eight other officers.


139 posted on 08/13/2005 11:37:22 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Dawgreg; tutstar; SeaBiscuit; jimbo123; Dat Mon; TomGuy; Stellar Dendrite; jwalsh07; Peach; ...

Under little-known, but established, US Supreme Court-sanctioned precedent, Jamie Gorelick, as a former Federal bureaucrat, can & should be sued civilly for gross dereliction of duty, for contributory negligence and culpability in 3,000 deaths (& counting), and for gross negligence as the DOJ "Wall of Separation" memo author, which greatly & unconscionably expanded the "letter of the law" to, in effect, protect spies and terrorists.

This in turn may lead to other higher up Clinton Administration officials being revealed as complicit or culpable under discovery, deposition and courtroom testimony.

Certainly the infamous Gorelick DOJ memo was consistent with the highly cautious and overly legalistic approach of the Clinton Administration (& The Clinton White House) toward National Security, espionage, and terrorism issues.


140 posted on 08/13/2005 11:44:30 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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