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Methamphetamines: Immigrant Store Clerks Becoming Collateral Damage in War on Meth
stopthedrugwar.com ^ | 8 12 05

Posted on 08/13/2005 3:39:11 PM PDT by freepatriot32

Spurred by new laws restricting the sales of cold remedies such as Sudafed, which contain pseudoephedrine, a necessary component of popular meth-cooking recipes, police and prosecutors across the country have been arresting convenience store clerks -- sometimes on charges that carry substantial prison sentences. In one Georgia case, authorities made mass arrests of immigrant store clerks and owners, but it's starting to look less like a criminal conspiracy and more like culturally naive foreign-born merchants simply trying to sell their merchandise.

It's all a big waste of money, says the Drug Policy Alliance, which issued a press release this week calling for money spent prosecuting and imprisoning store clerks to instead be spent on treatment for meth addicts. "Convenience store clerks have become the latest casualities in the war on drugs," said Bill Piper, director of national affairs for the Drug Policy Alliance. "Selling lighter fluid, cold medicine and other legal items shouldn't get someone decades in prison."

But that's what 49 rural northwest Georgia store clerks and owners, 44 of them Indian immigrants, are facing in the wake of a federal sting called Operation Meth Merchant, the brainchild of US Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia David Nahmias. Nahmias sent various undercover informants into the stores seeking items that could be used to make meth, then indicted the clerks on charges that could net them 20 years in prison. Nahmias told the New York Times he was convinced the clerks were guilty.

But as preliminary motions in the cases are filed, defense attorneys have been able to argue convincingly that the clerks and store owners often didn't understand that the informants were trying to tell them they wanted products for cooking meth. "They're not really paying attention to what they're being told," said Steve Sadow, one of the lawyers. "Their business is: I ring it up, you leave, I've done my job. Call it language or idiom or culture, I'm not sure you're able to show they know there's anything wrong with what they're doing," he told the Times.

"This is the first time I heard this -- I don't know how to pronounce -- this meta-meta something," said Hajira Ahmed. Her husband is one of the 49 arrested. He sits in jail awaiting trial on charges he sold cold medicine and antifreeze.

The Indian store clerks simply didn't understand the drug slang used by the undercover informants, defense lawyers said. When one told clerks he needed cold medicine, matches, and camping fuel to "finish a cook," the clerks thought that he was talking about a barbecue. Defense attorneys were able to point out that government documents defined the phrase in a footnote, suggesting that if it had to be explained to attorneys familiar with enforcing methamphetamine laws, it was hard to expect socially isolated store clerks to know its significance.

"This is not even slang language like 'gonna,' 'wanna,'" said Malvika Patel, who spent three days in jail after being arrested in a case of mistaken identity. "'Cook' is very clear; it means food." And in this context, she told the Times, some of the items the government wants stores to monitor would not set off any alarms. "When I do barbecue, I have four families. I never have enough aluminum foil."

The experience has soured some of the immigrants on their newly adopted homeland. Patel's husband, Chris, who Americanized his name on arrival, told the Times his wife's arrest made him think of selling his three stores and going back to India. "We are from so much cleaner society where we are from in India," he said. "We didn't even know what drugs were."

It's not only Indians in Georgia, but also Middle Easterners in Arizona, more than 30 of whom were arrested in a similar sting recently. And just plain white folks in Oklahoma. And with some 40 states having enacted or about to enact legislation restricting the sale of cold medicines as part of the war on meth, there will be more to come.

There has to be a better way, says the Drug Policy Alliance. "Putting store clerks in jail and breaking up families does nothing to deal with the problems associated with methamphetamine abuse," said Piper. "The hundreds of thousands of dollars it will cost to imprison these clerks would be better spent on drug treatment."


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Her husband is one of the 49 arrested.He sits in jail awaiting trial on charges he sold cold medicine and antifreeze.

Thank god this dangerous menace is off the streets why that arragent basterd was so brazen about selling anti freeze and cough medicine thath e was selling it right off the shelf out in the open almost like itwas legal or something!

they shoud just shoot him in the back of the head and make his family pay the cost of the bullet /sarcasm

and lets not forget this oldie but a goody to Clerk Convicted Of Selling Meth Ingredient (10 Bottles of Cold Medicine Could Bring 10 Years) feel safer now?

1 posted on 08/13/2005 3:39:13 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
2 posted on 08/13/2005 3:41:25 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: Wolfie

ping


3 posted on 08/13/2005 3:42:12 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32

"In one Georgia case, authorities made mass arrests of immigrant store clerks and owners, but it's starting to look less like a criminal conspiracy and more like culturally naive foreign-born merchants simply trying to sell their merchandise."


Ignorance of the law is no excuse.


4 posted on 08/13/2005 3:43:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: freepatriot32

This is "...government of the people, by the people, and for the people???"


5 posted on 08/13/2005 3:45:37 PM PDT by whipitgood (Public schools have replaced a biblical moral code with pragmatism. Civilization, beware!)
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To: freepatriot32
I can't even find my allergy medicine (every store is sold out) anymore since the Texas law went into effect August 1st. Seems like not only did everyone buy up as much as they could beforehand but now something in the law is making it hard for stores to get new stocks of it. Hopefully they'll get some before I run out of my last box.

Just another feel good law that won't do a bit of good.

6 posted on 08/13/2005 3:46:04 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: freepatriot32

This is really stupid. The WOD has become the new excuse for the nanny state.


7 posted on 08/13/2005 3:46:18 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: freepatriot32

"When I do barbecue, I have four families. I never have enough aluminum foil."

I think this says it all. Do these LEOs really think that REAL meth-heads go in and tell the clerks WHY they want to buy whatever it is they are buying to make their drugs? Do they really think that?

This is about the most blatant form of entrapment I've ever heard. Did they at least purchase mass quantities, or do the charges hang on just the bogus druggie lingo used during the buy?

More and more it seems our law enforcement has stopped pursuing the troublesome criminals and terrorists amoung us and has turned to the pursuit of cigarette smokers, seat belt scofflaws, and now, bamboozled grocery clerks.


8 posted on 08/13/2005 3:47:25 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: freepatriot32

These guys know exactly what they're doing. They're not only selling the ten bottles of cold medicine to one guy for his meth, but they got the Chore Boy copper mesh pads and the glass pipes with the rose right under the counter for those discriminating customers who still prefer crack.


9 posted on 08/13/2005 3:48:31 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: surely_you_jest

Here in Puget Sound, the Koreans run the psudoephedrine trade. They have for a decade. And they know what they're doing.


10 posted on 08/13/2005 3:49:59 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: freepatriot32
This is absolutely outrageous. It make me want to take back all the nasty things I said about the ACLU and write them a check.
11 posted on 08/13/2005 3:53:43 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: jimboster

What's your proof they know? Clerks should stock whatever items sell well. National Enquirers and packs of Big Red gum are also right next to the register as well. Are those used for making meth too?


12 posted on 08/13/2005 4:30:00 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: freepatriot32

We've lost our minds. Our country has lost it's mind. How many more lives to be sacrificed for the "war on drugs".


13 posted on 08/13/2005 4:31:05 PM PDT by greccogirl ("Freedom belongs to those who are willing to sacrifice the most for it")
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To: beef

The NRA is just barely, starting, to begin considering the dangers of the War On (some) Drugs. Until now, as far as I have been able to ascertain, they were Rah Rah supporters of the WO(s)D, but the Prinz decision seems to have finally gotten through to them.


14 posted on 08/13/2005 4:31:37 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: freepatriot32

This is a travesty. A publicity-hound prosecutor in Georgia is behind most of these arrests.


15 posted on 08/13/2005 4:31:54 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: beef

"It make me want to take back all the nasty things I said about the ACLU and write them a check."

Resist that urge!


16 posted on 08/13/2005 4:33:18 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: cripplecreek
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Past time to change the law.

17 posted on 08/13/2005 4:38:55 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: coloradan

Well, they know now. Try to buy 5 boxes of certain cold medicines at a reputable store like Walgreens or Osco even in states without any laws restricting the sale- you won't be able to do it. All of these sleazy convenience stores had these medicines behind the counter long before any laws were passed- they knew the drug addicts would steal them- and not because they catch more colds. Ask one of these convenient store clerks for a Chore Boy pad and he'll pull it out from under the counter. And if it happens to be a store where you're a regular customer, take a look at the clerk's look of amazement when you ask for a product that only drug addicts purchase at his store.


18 posted on 08/13/2005 4:48:16 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: freepatriot32
"We are from so much cleaner society where we are from in India," he said. "We didn't even know what drugs were."

The second part is doubtful. The first part is utterly absurd.

Okay, back to the liberdrugian discussion.

19 posted on 08/13/2005 4:50:16 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: jimboster

My former officemate had such a resistance build up to pseudoephedrine, he required massive doses. I hope he (or his local merchant) hasn't been thrown into prison for his medical/pharmaceutical needs!


20 posted on 08/13/2005 4:51:23 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: freepatriot32

If libertarians are more than just a bunch of potheads looking for a way to legalize their weed, why don't they ever discuss anything else on FR?


21 posted on 08/13/2005 4:51:54 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: Gondring
NO CONTROLLING LEGAL ATHORITY


22 posted on 08/13/2005 4:53:40 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: jimboster

Yet I was able to buy 10 bottles of Sominex...not a blink. Who needs 10 boxes of sleeping pills except someone with bad intent?

Or who has a friend with a dog with allergies...and who knows that Sominex and Benadryl are the same medication.

Disclaimer: I'm not a physician, etc.


23 posted on 08/13/2005 4:55:30 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: watchin
Yeah, I never see gun control mentioned on FR. </sarc>
24 posted on 08/13/2005 4:56:31 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: freepatriot32

Where I live we have an increasing meth problem. I have a CCW, and I carry more often than I used to. At night my M1911 is within reach. I will not be a victim of some meth-head.


25 posted on 08/13/2005 4:57:32 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: freepatriot32

better be careful next time you go to super walmart too...the metro narcotics division has an awful lot of undercover agents working at wally world...buy 2 or more ingredients that "could" be used to mfg meth and you will be arrested in the parking lot and charged with operating a clandestine lab.

It is totally ridiculous...better not be going camping and need sudafed and coleman fuel....instant jailbird with 40K bond minimum.


26 posted on 08/13/2005 4:57:44 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: whipitgood

The party of 'smaller government'


27 posted on 08/13/2005 4:57:48 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: billnaz
I have a CCW, and I carry more often than I used to.

You don't need a gun or Sudafed. Only a criminal would want to carry a gun or buy meds. </sarc>

28 posted on 08/13/2005 5:01:24 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: beef
This is actually the second time today I've had a similar feeling...... A thrad I posted earlier today about the ACLU defending the free speech and anonymity of bloggers in Delaware.

Interestingly the guy that filed suit against the bloggers is a Democrat. The bloggers the ACLU is defending aren't known, but general consensus is that they are most likely supports of the Republican Mayor of the town.

29 posted on 08/13/2005 5:02:11 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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To: jan in Colorado

out-of-control Amerika ping


30 posted on 08/13/2005 5:02:39 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Fertilizer is a legal product. Try buying a truckload of that.


31 posted on 08/13/2005 5:04:11 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: watchin
If libertarians are more than just a bunch of potheads looking for a way to legalize their weed, why don't they ever discuss anything else on FR?

um would you like me to add you to my libertarian ping list so you can actually see what the libertarians are discussing on fr?Drugs are only about 30-40 percent.We also discuss the kelo decision, campaign finance reform,gun rights, zero tolerance policy's ,the border, the war on terror, the patriot act, the ever increasing size of government under are publican controlled congress and senate and presidency, and a whole range of things that the republicans should care about but dont because they are more interested in the power they can acquire and lord over us peons then they are with upholding and defending the constitution of the usa and protecting the country from all enemys foreign and domestic

Click on my screename and then click on in forum to see all the libertarians pings for the last few months its not just about legalizing weed so that white women with have sex with negro jazz musicians to create mud race babys after they turn into abat after just one hit.

32 posted on 08/13/2005 5:15:17 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: billnaz
Where I live we have an increasing meth problem. I have a CCW, and I carry more often than I used to. At night my M1911 is within reach. I will not be a victim of some meth-head.

Its not the meth heads you have to worry about breaking into your house and killing you in the middle of the night espially if they know you have a ccw

Man killed by Sunrise police in drug raid had 2 ounces of marijuana

33 posted on 08/13/2005 5:20:06 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32

Yeah, I saw that story. ANYBODY who shoots at me had better get a first-round hit if they expect to survive. I WILL shoot back at anybody who breaks my threshold. On the qualification portion of the CCW course I put 20 out of 20 into the silhouette -- two head shots and the rest in center of mass.


34 posted on 08/13/2005 5:40:47 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: jocon307

It is safer that way they don't get shot at!


35 posted on 08/13/2005 5:41:43 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: freepatriot32

The prosecutors have become the criminals.


36 posted on 08/13/2005 6:09:41 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: freepatriot32
All those important issues, huh? And still "Drugs are only about 30-40 percent"?

Whoa. Like dude, thanks for clearin' that up. I thought you guys were, like, always stoked on drugs and crap. Fer sure!

Bwahahahaha!!

37 posted on 08/13/2005 6:35:43 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: greccogirl
Our country has lost it's mind.

You say that with a straight face, when the that's precisely the purpose of doing meth, crack, and heroin.

How many more lives to be sacrificed for the "war on drugs".

How about, "As many as it takes to blow all the lotus-eaters, strung-out losers, and thugboy distributors out of the country?" Go somewhere else, you want to do that stuff. Try Thailand. Switzerland, Holland. Just nowhere near here.

38 posted on 08/13/2005 6:48:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Gondring
My former officemate had such a resistance build up to pseudoephedrine, he required massive doses.

Your friend needs to consult a doctor about his medical needs. That just ain't right. He's probably hooked already anyway.

39 posted on 08/13/2005 6:53:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: watchin

If you think this is about weed, perhaps I can get you to vote for Hildebeast. I don't smoke, sell, or injest any drug. I do have a problem with our government jailing people for selling LEGAL substances. Making these substances controlled by pharmacists essentially makes the pharmacists responsible for the jobs cops should be doing instead. This is not going to stop the production of meth in ANY way.


40 posted on 08/13/2005 7:22:45 PM PDT by mosquitobite
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To: lentulusgracchus

If you don't like the Constitution, then why don't YOU be te one to go someplace else instead of suggesting it to those who like the country that the Founding Fathers created?


41 posted on 08/13/2005 8:14:25 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mosquitobite
If you think this is about weed, perhaps I can get you to vote for Hildebeast.

Uh, right. Stunning logical progression there, sport. Interesting that you'd want to persuade me in that direction though. Hmmm.

Anyway, I know what this is about. This is libertarians whining about the evil government burdening meth labs uh, store clerks. Of course, nobody here actually wants meth, it's just the principle of the thing.

I do have a problem with our government jailing people for selling LEGAL substances.

Oh I agree. If these people were truly not aware of the meth world, they did no wrong and should not be incarcerated. Even if they sold truly neutral items, like camping fuel, and knew it might be misused, they should walk. If they sold a dozen boxes of behind-the-counter cold meds at a time? Sounds like a willing accomplice to me.

We could make it all prescription-only again, but we all know that isn't what you folks want. You want fewer evil big government drug regulations, not more. Not that any libertarians would buy the stuff. Just the principle, you know.

Libertarians spend A LOT more time (30-40% by your estimation) whining about our nazi-like government jailing innocent people just for selling ILLEGAL substances (that they don't use, of course. It's just the principle). This is not a conservative value, but one much more aligned with the aging antiwar hippy type.

Look at the posts on this thread. See any that sound anti-American/"Mother Sheehan"/Michael Moore/moonbat-ish?

42 posted on 08/13/2005 9:16:51 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: cripplecreek

It's not illegal, per se, to sell cold medicine, antifreeze and aluminum foil.

Heck, I buy cold medicine, antifreeze and aluminum foil several times a year (maybe only once or twice a year for antifreeze).

That's not what's against the law.

I gather that what's against the law is selling it to drug dealers -- how on earth can you know what the purchaser intends to do with these items?


43 posted on 08/13/2005 9:18:42 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: mosquitobite
Some examples. I changed one word. The rest could easily be lifted from the sewer of DU:
they shoud just shoot him in the back of the head and make his family pay the cost of the bullet /sarcasm
This is absolutely outrageous. It make me want to take back all the nasty things I said about the ACLU and write them a check.
We've lost our minds. Our country has lost it's mind. How many more lives to be sacrificed for the "war on drugs terror".
out-of-control Amerika ping
Its not the meth heads you have to worry about breaking into your house and killing you in the middle of the night espially if they know you have a ccw
The prosecutors have become the criminals.
Conservative FReepers, or a bunch of drug obsessed paranoid anarchist whiners?
44 posted on 08/13/2005 9:39:20 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: watchin
You want fewer evil big government drug regulations, not more.

Yep...that's what used to be "conservative" thinking around these parts.

Now we've got a bunch of big-government nanny statists who want to pass as many laws as possible in order to keep law abiding citizens from conveniently purchasing legal substances.

It's pretty obvious from your posts that your political leanings skew towards the liberal side of the spectrum.

Why are you even here at FR?

45 posted on 08/13/2005 10:04:11 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill
LOL - "Purchasing legal substances" is not the main focus of libertarians, and you know it. It's about lip-service to conservatism, and absolute devotion to legalizing drugs.

One of your own gave up that much when he said you "only" devote 30-40% of your time to discussions about drug use. That's supposed to demonstrate good libertarian balance. LOL

So the question goes back to you ... given the maniacal DU type "Amerika is evil" ravings I've pointed out on this thread, why are the dopers libertarians even on FR? Put that in your bong and smoke it, dude. It's like, cosmic.

46 posted on 08/13/2005 11:02:09 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: jimboster

BTTT


47 posted on 08/13/2005 11:07:12 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: ActionNewsBill

---One poster wants to support the ACLU.

---Another poster paraphrases the moonbat left with "How many more lives to be sacrificed for the "war on drugs".

---Yet another mimics the lefties with "out-of-control Amerika"

I've said very little except to poke fun at the "Legalize Pot and Some Other Important Stuff Party". I think most of you are comically disingenuous.

You say that means my "political leanings skew towards the liberal side of the spectrum"? That comment and Mosquitobite's give me an idea.

Perhaps you should change the name to the non sequitur party? Give the drugs, everyone would understand.


48 posted on 08/13/2005 11:24:52 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: Gondring
Things sure have changed a lot since I worked for the PD. We actually went after the criminals. What were we thinking?

What happened to personal responsibility? Now we have lawsuits against the drug companies, the gun manufacturers, the tobacco companies and the bar owners, instead of holding people accountable for their own actions.

In other news...Mosques( AKA training grounds for terrorists) are opening all across the United States as Americans are reassured that Islam is a "Religion of Peace."

49 posted on 08/13/2005 11:55:42 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: watchin
"Purchasing legal substances" is not the main focus of libertarians, and you know it.

That's not really the main focus of this thread, which you would know if you had actually read the article, but I guess it's so much easier to just go off on your emotional rant directed towrds those "evil" libertarians.

From the article:

"This is the first time I heard this -- I don't know how to pronounce -- this meta-meta something," said Hajira Ahmed. Her husband is one of the 49 arrested. He sits in jail awaiting trial on charges he sold cold medicine and antifreeze.

Apparently you don't see a problem with an out of control drug war that snares store owners and clerks for selling perfectly legal substances. I guess that makes you feel safer, doesn't it?

So the question goes back to you ... given the maniacal DU type "Amerika is evil" ravings

America is not evil, however the war on (some) drugs most certainly is, as evidenced by JBT's gunning down a man for posessing a small amount of marijuana.

Man killed by Sunrise police in drug raid had 2 ounces of marijuana

This kind of crap happens all the time, thanks to drug warriors like you.

50 posted on 08/14/2005 12:12:01 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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