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To: aft_lizard
So in essence you are attempting to say that because sin has been removed from the judgement of man, we can break the levitical laws.

I want to revisit this because it seems to be at the core of your problem. Paul addresses this very issue in Galatians 6, in Corinthians and in Romans. He states plainly that we are not under the law - that would include the levitical portion of it. He asks and answers the question 'if we're not under the law, shall we then sin because we're under grace.' Paul rightly recognized that the law does address what is sin. The law existed to punish and stop sin. In absence of enforcement of the law, are we to sin as we will? His answer and mine is "God forbid."

I didn't speak to whether we're allowed to break the law as we choose. On the other hand, we are not under the law; but, rather under Grace as Paul notes in Galatians and his other writings. The question you asked earlier was when the rules for clean and unclean foods disappeared in God's eyes. That happened in the Acts and I answered to that affect with a citation. You didn't process that at all and still seem to think that after God blessed that which was once unclean and made it clean, it is still under rebuke. You have arrived at the same place as the judaizers. And it is with no astonishment on my part that you have. That's a central problem with the religion you've chosen and crops up over and again because it's a ground of authority your clergy roped it's chuckwagon to.. burdening you with the law and requiring you to come to the priest for judgement and forgiveness as in the old system which was done away with. That's great until you actually read and figure that out - until then they collect your 10% and keep going. And you are blissfully ignorant of scripture, yet armed to argue, by them, points you know nothing about. You should go thank them and consider why you don't know scripture.. it isn't entirely their fault; but, they are kinda counting on it. 10% adds up if you get enough people doing it. Just a thought.

729 posted on 08/22/2005 9:07:35 AM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Havoc

Boy you sure are rude. I bet people really like you.

The quote you had from Acts does not say anything about clean and unclean foods. I want it to sasy specifically that it is OK to eat prok, to eat crab to eat well you get the picture I want it to say, The levitical laws as it pertains to food are now lifted. It seems to me that you and others have instead of providing direct quotes for the questions I need answered have used the philosiphical arguments amongst the apostles and to those of the early churches.

Otherwise our argument comes full circle. If you are to take word for word the biblical account for creation, and then interpet a philosiphical argument to mean the abdication and allowance of eating what was once considered unclean, then maybe you can understand why I have been giving you the run around, otherwise continue your bashing and name calling of me,call me ignorant and unknowledgable, but remember this if you can only answer with philosophy and not written fact then you are in nothing but the same boat I am.


730 posted on 08/22/2005 11:02:09 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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