Strike my last attack on you I read the one atacking me behind my back before I replied to the big issue.
Look, you seem to have a major misunderstanding of me and of my whole argument. Thats fine. Its easy to do, look its over.
My whole point of sticking with the levitical argument was that you said either take all of GODs word or none of it at all, if you had however quoted Jesus and the food or the story of the stoning of the prostiture(which, correct me if I am wrong deals directly with the punishment issue of the levitical laws), This argument would have ended along time ago.
That being said, the reason being is that the way I was interpreting your answers(and btw you are very knowledgable on the bible far more than me anyways) was that you seemed to put forth biblical philosophy rather than biblical fact, and by doing so I felt in my argumentative mind that negates the argument as that which began between us, either take it at its word or dont take it at all, in other words what would my philosophical reasoning behind evolution and creation differ from philosophising on what Jesus meant, what is the new judgements and what have you.
I know in your mind there is a big difference, and thats fine. But at least see what my argument is there.
Ok, I'm going to preface this comment with a warning because I work two jobs and must leave shortly for 14 hours - the warning is I won't be responding for another 14 hours. Just a heads up.
Forgetting 737 for the moment, you're admitting now that you wanted to beg similar circumstance in reliance on philosophy as a lowest common denominator for excusing your position based on what you thought I might be doing. That is the gist of your position as I understand it, is it not.
In response to that, I would point out that what I personally do one way or the other has zero bearing on what the truth of scripture is. I can defend it for being true; but, if I cuss you out, that isn't a reflection on scripture, it's a reflection on me. So whether I invoke philosophy or not doesn't help your argument. Whether anyone else does or not doesnt' help your argument. Your argument has to stand on it's own against the facts. And if you aren't taking that approach, you show the weakness of your hand by appealing to the lowest common denominator.. 'Buddy does it so I should be able to steal too' doesn't work as a kid in a candy store and it doesn't pass muster as an adult before a judge either. How then does it pass muster before an all knowing God?
My view on anything that even smacks of being unscriptural is to take the case to God - literally. Sit down, read what scripture has to say. Once you've examined that carefully, sit in a chair as though you were sitting before God and explain it to Him. It may seem absurd; but, act like it's the difference between going to heaven or going to hell and try to imagine what an unbiased And just judge would tell you. It requires being objective. And it requires a healthier respect for the scriptures as God's word instead of the usual approach many people take that it's God's suggestion when taken in small doses with tradition and the opinions of men via philosophy etc. That is to say, I've debated Catholics for years now and I'm well acquainted with the usual explanations and gimmes.
Evolution and Christian scripture are irreconcilable. And if you're going to start calling God a liar, what makes Genesis 1 any different from the Gospels. What about Jesus arising from the dead? It is no more scientifically plausible than God speaking everything into existance because it can't be explained "naturally". When you start picking and choosing things to believe, you end up with not much left ultimately save for the reverse of where you started. Your compromise is your comfort zone and your bottom line is what you want whether true or proper. When that becomes the bottom line, anything goes. And that is the point. Philosophy can rationalize anything amd most of the time does just that. Philosophers can pull the wool a lot of times because the art is in persuasion using whatever means sound good. If they had to convince God to his face of most of the garbage they spew, most would have the good sense to shut up knowing better before him. They don't realize he's right there all the time even if they can't see him. And he misses nothing.