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Shrinking Detroit has 12,000 abandoned homes
AFP ^ | Sun Aug 14, 5:03 PM ET

Posted on 08/15/2005 3:32:16 AM PDT by TimeLord

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To: ShadowDancer
"Suburbanites are taking the bodies of their relatives out of cemeteries because they're afraid to come to the city," Vogel said. "There are about 400 to 500 hundred (being moved) a year which shows you the depth of racism and fear."

Now, according to this reporter, to fear for your life entering some areas of Detroit is racism.

To see someone robbed, stabbed, or shot in Detroit; should be good enough reason to avoid Detroit (i.e. Common Sense) and not Racism.
61 posted on 08/15/2005 4:39:03 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: ShadowDancer
So you had to pay Detroit city taxes then on top of everything else then, right?

Oh yeah.  Detroit is the only city I've ever worked in that takes taxes from you.  Like it was a privilege to work there.  They should have given me combat pay to come there every day.

62 posted on 08/15/2005 4:39:34 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: TimeLord
Shrinking Detroit has 12,000 abandoned homes

Oh, the horror!

Homeless homes!

63 posted on 08/15/2005 4:40:18 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm. A glowworm's never glum. How can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?)
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To: BlackRain

Exactly and that prevailing attitude is why Detroit will continue it's downward spiral, of which it only has about two more spins before it completely implodes anyway.


64 posted on 08/15/2005 4:41:07 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: Shalom Israel

"blacks are the favorite target of liberal do-gooders, so it's no wonder that their family structure is destroyed, their youth are stuck on the streets, and their mothers are stuck in a cycle of welfare."

- Very good observation. Too bad all blacks aren't as smart as some...like Bill Cosby. But I guess he's a racist too. </sarcasm>


65 posted on 08/15/2005 4:41:19 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: TimeLord
"Detroit has become an icon of what's considered urban decline,"

Is it any wander folks on the west side of the state refer to it as DeToilet ;-)

66 posted on 08/15/2005 4:42:12 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

As, this reporter points out, 83% of Detroit is Black; so I guess we know who is committing the crime there -- White's are sneaking back into Detroit to commit crime from Suburbia.


67 posted on 08/15/2005 4:43:07 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: TimeLord

What part of "move" do these people not understand.


68 posted on 08/15/2005 4:46:21 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: TimeLord

Didn't Robocop supposedly take place in Detroit? Wonder how it looks now compared to that movie.


69 posted on 08/15/2005 4:47:13 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm. A glowworm's never glum. How can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?)
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To: TimeLord
"Detroit has become an icon of what's considered urban decline,"

I prefer "a shining example of the truth about socialism"......whats left of the "working class" are also fleeing to the suburbs such as Eastpointe, Warren and Roseville.

I can't see any future in Detroit. The downtown area is trying to lure upscale people by building expensive condos and townhouses but there is no infrastructure to support it. Once you leave your complex, you are taking your life into your own hands. I think most of the people who have bought downtown probably work in the Renaissance Center area.

There were some condos built on Woodward Ave. by Ford Field that my sister tried talking me into buying. What she had no idea of was the traffic that I would have to put up with driving out to Troy where I work. A Nightmare!

I attended a ballgame down there last fall and the bums that were hanging around the street outside of that condo community were incredible. That is NOT the type of place where I would feel comfortable living in a $200,000 + condominium..............

Detroit stinks and it is dying.........

70 posted on 08/15/2005 4:47:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (What is a homosexual Islamic Jihadist going to do with 72 virgins? Can he give them away?)
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To: Larry Lucido
Yeah, but there were some good guys from Michigam, too. Like May his soul rest in peace.
71 posted on 08/15/2005 4:47:54 AM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: ShadowDancer
I prefer his distant cousin.


72 posted on 08/15/2005 4:48:44 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: N. Theknow

Robocop was set in Detroit but filmed in Dallas. Go figure.


73 posted on 08/15/2005 4:49:14 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: bella1
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe Ted Nugent is from Ann Arbor...

Southfield...

74 posted on 08/15/2005 4:49:59 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: TimeLord
"If you call and ask (the city) about it they say they don't have the funds to tear it down."

The city should offer to give the home to her.

75 posted on 08/15/2005 4:50:45 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Larry Lucido
Robocop was set in Detroit but filmed in Dallas. Go figure.

With apologies to Johnny Carson; "I did not know that."

76 posted on 08/15/2005 4:52:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm. A glowworm's never glum. How can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?)
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To: TimeLord
Detroit can thank the racists NAACP, ACLU, Democrats and any other socialist commie liberal group for their status as the biggest Cesspool of the US.

You would think all those smug, antiwar, Ebonics supporting Eco terrorist liberals could do better.

However, Detroit like the Soviet Union proves that socialism does not work.

Liberals want to do to America what communism did to Russia.
77 posted on 08/15/2005 4:52:40 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: palmer
"Suburbanites are taking the bodies of their relatives out of cemeteries because they're afraid to come to the city," Vogel said. "There are about 400 to 500 hundred (being moved) a year which shows you the depth of racism and fear."

Herein lies the key.

Detroit (or anywhere else) is permanently beyond hope so long as the instinct for survival is dismissed as a character or cultural fault.

We seem to have a fatal cultural problem similar to islam. Only in a totalitarian state can you force large groups to expose themselves to mayhem and murder for a "higher" goal, be that goal saving a city or saving a subculture.

First the subculture must save itself. Expecting the rest of the universe to sacrifice their most vulnerable, the youngest and the oldest, in order to save a city, or even a neighborhood, is a hopeless task. And forget asking for volunteers. You will always get a few, the dimmest of the dim, to try but the results will always be the same.

A mindset that requires the conscious sacrifice of lives is simply not going to happen. The word "hopeless" continues to exist for a reason.
Some things are hopeless.

78 posted on 08/15/2005 4:53:06 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: bobjam
Another solution (and fairly common) is to have the fire department set old abandoned houses ablaze for training purposes. In fact, the city could bring other departments in for training

Actually you don't have to involve the fire dept. For years Detroit has experienced "Hell Night" which was the night before Halloween. People set abandoned buildings on fire all night and kept the fire dept. extremely busy. I don't know how this started, but it has gone on for years. It is rarely reported in the national news.

79 posted on 08/15/2005 4:56:09 AM PDT by SCALEMAN (Completely Useless Before September)
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To: bella1; kassie
"I'm sure there are parts of the city which are nice" No there isn't. You obviously have never been there!

Downtown has some nice restaurants but the traffic and parking is horrendous. Plus you have to drive thru any given war zone to get there. Except for hockey, there is nothing downtown that you can't find in the more upscale cities like Troy or Birmingham anyway.....

This winter's Super Bowl is going to be fun to watch. Who the hell wants to walk around downtown Detroit in the middle of the winter? I suspect most of the people coming to town will be staying in the suburbs anyway. A super bowl in Miami is a hell of a lot more attractive than a super bowl in downtown Detroit...........

80 posted on 08/15/2005 4:56:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (What is a homosexual Islamic Jihadist going to do with 72 virgins? Can he give them away?)
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