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We have right to know truth about CAIR
WorldNet Daily ^ | 8-16-05 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 08/16/2005 10:06:54 AM PDT by Bob J

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To: Bob J

Has anyone ever heard moslems in the U.S. say or sing: "Allah bless America?"


21 posted on 08/16/2005 12:41:38 PM PDT by nightdriver
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"Has anyone ever heard moslems in the U.S. say or sing: "Allah bless America?"

You raise an interesting question that calls for comparison.

For instance, blessing one's country and expressing gratitude for the blessings that come with living there and praying for the good health of its leaders and their ability to make wise decisions is a formal part of the Jewish Sabbath prayer service of all synagogues, from the traditional to the non-traditional. So integral is the concept of a public, communal blessing for the country to Judaism that the prayer must be said not only in Hebrew, but also in the vernacular language of the country to make sure everyone present can fully understand the meaning and embrace with gratitude the importance of what the prayer means for individuals and for the congregation as a whole.

I am less familiar with the parts of the prayer services of all Christian denominations, but can only assume from hearing invocations and speeches by Christian leaders at public events throughout my life that gratitude and prayer for one's country is a core value of all who follow the Judao-Christian tradition.

The rights of citizenship come with obligations of caring and loyalty to one's country.

Free countries can't keep absorbing internal enemies who would do them harm and expect to survive.


22 posted on 08/16/2005 6:08:36 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: SJackson

And Sen. Chuck Schumer, when he says: "We know [CAIR] has ties to terrorism."


Begs the question why are they still in operation.


23 posted on 08/16/2005 8:57:19 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: F15Eagle

However, Joseph Farah, while publishing a few questionable-credibility articles, like Russian nukes in the U.S.A.,

Actually they did have "suitcase nukes" hidden here. At least according to Vasili Mitrokhin, in "The Sword And The Shield"
The Mitrokhin Archive and the secret history of the KGB.



The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive and the Secret History of the KGB

By Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin,

New York: Basic Books, 1999, 700 pages

http://cicentre.com/BK/BOOKS_Redmond_Mitrokhin.htm




The publication of The Sword and the Shield is a landmark event. The book is more than a triumph of historiography. Behind it is Mitrokhin’s own amazing persistence and risk-taking over many years while he read KGB First Chief Directorate files and made the thousands of notes which he eventually brought to the West. The material ended up with the British and not the Americans. As the Cold War ended, the CIA’s Directorate of Operations adopted a policy that the Agency would no longer try to recruit Soviet/Russian intelligence officers. The chief of the Central Eurasia Division, who proclaimed, “The KGB is dead,” told me that “We must maintain the high moral ground.” Mitrokhin volunteered twice to the Americans, and after he was turned away, went to the British. They handled the case brilliantly and exploited the information internationally to the great benefit of MI-6 and the British Government in general.



It is probably a good thing that the information went to the British and thus to Professor Andrew, chairman of the History Department at Cambridge. He is uniquely qualified and motivated as a scholar to deal with it. He has no equal in America. His counterparts at Yale, Ohio State, and Stanford specialize, respectively, in Religious Studies, Women’s Studies, and Early Modern Europe and Women’s Studies.



Professor Andrew has done a superb job in taking Mitrokhin’s material, much of it fragmentary, and combining it with hundreds of other sources to draw to full, coherent picture. (The bibliography is more than 12 pages long, and the footnotes number almost 1,000.) For instance, in the chapter on the Magnificent Five,” Andrew combines Mitrokhin’s notes with about 30 other sources ranging from Vienna city police records to Kim Philby’s own self-serving, KGB-inspired autobiography. This approach, used throughout the book, represents outstanding scholarship, which allows Mitrokhin’s massive detail to illuminate and expand on, sometimes with stunning new data, what has been written, or simply previously suspected. An excellent example is the brief section on the Soviet illegal Rudolph Abel, which combines Mitrokhin’s data with information published about him in the West. Abel was lionized as a heroic master spy in the West; according to Mitrokhin’s data, however, he apparently accomplished little.


24 posted on 08/16/2005 9:08:06 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: F15Eagle

(If memory serves) One was found buried outside of Brainard Mn., as I recall it was said that it was no longer funtional but...
It was all over the news, shortly after this book ws published.


26 posted on 08/16/2005 9:28:59 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: F15Eagle

I had a link to it but I got hit with a virus late last year and had to reformat my hard drive...bye bye links. Haven't been able to find it or a good many others. Sorry.


28 posted on 08/16/2005 10:04:12 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

That's a good one.


30 posted on 08/21/2005 10:15:07 PM PDT by milford421
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