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Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01
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To: RadioAstronomer
Codswallop Is he any relation to Malcom Wallop?
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:26:15 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: bobdsmith
So either evolution is false, or the Newton's laws, etc., are false.
It's the beginning of the Intelligent Design Inquisition. No one expected this.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:27:58 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: FostersExport
Whoever wrote it needs to go back to school. Or maybe he hasn't got there yet.
Or maybe just occupied space in a school for awhile, like desks do.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:34:21 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: Das Outsider
On the contrary: the imperfect state of things suggests that Christians are right! God failed to make perfect life. Therefore God is imperfect.
Is the grammar school serving Holy Communion again?
No, but some will soon be reaffirming Genesis though.
When Christians stop speaking out on issues relative to society, culture, and government then the challenges will cease because they'll just disappear into the mire.
There are plenty of cultural issues that Christians can, and should, get involved with. But making Christians, and conservatives, look like idiots with Santa Claus versions of science is not one of those.
Whether you like it or not, not all Christians agree that evolution is false. This is a religious dogma fight taking place in courtrooms and politics. It will do nothing but damage for both Christians and conservatives and their ability to get real change accomplished.
Let me put it another way: When Christians are effectively silenced in the public arena, then you'll be happy.
When Christians stop interfering in science and science education, then I'll be happy. Many other things they do I approve of wholeheartedly.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:37:56 PM PDT
by
narby
(There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
To: ml1954
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:39:05 PM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: woodb01
Evolution is not science, because it can not be tested, verified, and there are no false results.
Fossil evidence that human beings were contemporaneous with T-Rex would certainly be a "false result" that would cause the TOE major problems.
But then, don't let logic get in the way of your fantasy and ruin the buzz.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:40:34 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: Hoplite
ROFLOL. Thanks. You made my day.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:44:31 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: Hoplite
I appreciate the link and the smile that came with it, but, unfortunately, it's not really funny.
What's tongue in cheek often has the unfortunate tendency to show up later as gospel.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:45:21 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: muir_redwoods
"Evolutions basic premise is that all life on the planet miraculously emerged through a bunch of accidents."
Since this is untrue and neither Darwin nor educators today have anything to say about origins of life based on Darwins teaching, everything else this person has to say is suspect. Natural selection is an established fact and can be readily observed in nature over as little as a few generations.
So that I understand this, your premise is that evolution is only about one very narrowly defined issue and absolutely nothing else--, "natural selection."
Or put another way, survival of the fittest, Hitler's "uber-man," law of the jungle, kill or be killed, etc.
I can accept that. I just want to make sure that I have evolution defined correctly for everyone. So that we're all on the same page.
Evolution is nothing but the law of the jungle...
Brutal rape, murder, sodomy, child molestation, theft, whatever--, you know "natural selection" or in other words, if I'm stronger than you or have better weapons and want what you have I can just take it. And through natural selection if you get in the way, simply execute you in cold blood...
Sounds a lot like National Socialism to me...
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:47:55 PM PDT
by
woodb01
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To: Hoplite
Its funny because it hits the nail absolutely square on the head :o)
To: furball4paws
What's tongue in cheek often has the unfortunate tendency to show up later as gospel.
Like bad SNL skits, right.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:49:26 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: Izzy Dunne
Evolutions basic premise is that all life on the planet miraculously emerged through a bunch of accidents. Religion's basic premise is that all "life" on the planet miraculously "emerged" through a few waves of a magic wand.
Sounds about equally stupid, I think.
Not really.
Does the end product look more like an accident or an artifact? Simple research question. One that is accessible to standard rigorous scientific evaluation.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:50:50 PM PDT
by
TomSmedley
(Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
To: Moral Hazard
"how does an "accident" suddenly develop a detailed system for a very SPECIFIC purpose"
That's not what evolution requires. Things like eyes evolved over hundreds of millions of generations. Under evolutions you get small changes over many generations that gradually add up to very complex systems.
So then, using the analogy or allegory of the deck of cards, by the time that the first card even got NEAR the second card, they'd all be a pile of dust...
Did time and aging stop for evolution to have its next "small step" to the next form of one-celled life? Some of this stuff is just so silly and absurd it's ridiculous. Do you really "hear" what you're saying? That nothing eventually moved to greater and greater levels of something. That it forced itself to become more and more complex over gozillions a' yers! (in my best Forrest Gump imitation)...
You can't possibly be serious here. Take the Time man and THINK about the silly presumptions that you have to accept on totally BLIND FAITH for evolution to even SOUND reasonable.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:53:05 PM PDT
by
woodb01
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To: TomSmedley
Does the end product look more like an accident or an artifact?
Exhibit A - The Elephant Man.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:55:32 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: doc30
All of science must be gutted in order to fit what some people 'believe.' LOL! Are you a drama queen?
To: woodb01
"Think of it like this, evolution believe that if you have a deck of 52 cards and two jokers, and then shuffle the deck thoroughly, and throw the entire deck up in the air as high as you can, that eventually all of the cards will land, in perfect order, and perfectly aligned. The probability of this even happening one time in a billion years approaches zero." I'd like to know the inputs into the formula for how the author calculated the odds of this happening. I won't hold my breath waiting to know. I never got past this tidbit.
For once, I'd like to read a pro-ID article from someone that actually understands science and evolution.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:56:57 PM PDT
by
DaGman
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
LOL! Are you a drama queen?
No. Just a Neo-Nazi.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:57:28 PM PDT
by
ml1954
To: furball4paws
What's tongue in cheek often has the unfortunate tendency to show up later as gospel. All humor has to have a bit of truth in it.
This does.
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posted on
08/16/2005 4:59:08 PM PDT
by
narby
(There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
To: mugs99
It is about getting Evangelism into the schools, IMO. If it's about evangelism, then it's about the Church of Evolution having a proselytizing monopoly.
To: narby
We'll seriously have to do the God question at another time. For now, let's keep it on creation/evolution and public policy.
There are plenty of cultural issues that Christians can, and should, get involved with.
Ok, so we agree there.
Whether you like it or not, not all Christians agree that evolution is false
I'm well aware of that. Some are Christians-by-association, some are lumped into that category with a very liberal definition or ethnic designation, and others--more than a few-- are genuine believers in Christ, I'm sure. They've integrated the evolutionary model into their theology. So we agree there, too. Thanks for clarifying your position.
Where we disagree is the area (or areas) the challenges exist, I guess.
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posted on
08/16/2005 5:02:28 PM PDT
by
Das Outsider
(Islam is a religion of peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.)
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