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Strict Mexican gun laws creating black market for U.S. weapons
The Brownsville Herald ^ | August 16, 2005 | SERGIO CHAPA

Posted on 08/16/2005 11:30:03 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

BROWNSVILLE — Mexico’s strict gun control laws are contributing to an illegal gun market and easier access to weapons, according to U.S. law enforcement officials that are close observers of a recent upswing in border violence.

Since January, more than 600 people have been killed in an ongoing war between rival drug cartels using high-powered handguns and assault rifles fighting for control of drug smuggling routes on the Texas-Mexico border.

Federal gun seizures show that a majority of weapons used in violent crimes in Mexico were smuggled into the country from the United States or bought through other sources in a lucrative black market.

Mexican law requires its citizens to apply for a permit from the Secretary of National Defense (SEDENA) before they can buy a handgun or rifle for hunting or self-defense.

SEDENA officials could not be reached for comment. The agency’s Web site shows applicants must submit to a background check as well as provide verification of employment and several references.

Federal agents that asked not to be identified for security reasons said the permitting process in Mexico is expensive and approval to buy a handgun or rifle (that must be .22-caliber or smaller) can take up to a year.

In the United States, the Brady law requires federally licensed gun dealers to run background checks on all buyers; the process usually takes seven days or less.

At the same time, Mexican law also prohibits gun owners from carrying their weapons in public. Texas gun owners can carry weapons if they have a concealed handgun permit.

According to SEDENA, Mexico has only two licensed gun manufacturers, compared to almost 200 in the United States.

The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms reports the U.S. arms industry is worth $1.2 billion and exports more than 141,000 guns per year.

Limited distribution in Mexico makes legal guns and ammunition more expensive than those smuggled in from the United States.

Ignacio Corona, a Mexican and Latin American Cultures professor at Ohio State University, said those and other gun laws put Mexico’s honest citizens at a disadvantage.

“All the weapons are in the hands of the bad guys,” he said. But at the same time, Corona said it is difficult to predict how changes in Mexico’s gun laws would change the situation.

“If it was more lax,” he said, “perhaps it would be worse because there is no education in the culture on how to use the guns properly.”

schapa@brownsvilleherald.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; borderwar; guns; mexico
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“All the weapons are in the hands of the bad guys,” he said.

Si.

1 posted on 08/16/2005 11:30:06 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Mexico better build the wall, corrupt, repressive governments, such as theirs, cannot allow the serfs to be armed.


2 posted on 08/16/2005 11:33:45 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Why it gots to be a "BLACK" Market?


3 posted on 08/16/2005 11:35:06 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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BROWNSVILLE — Mexico’s strict gun control laws are contributing to an illegal gun market and easier access to weapons, according to U.S. law enforcement officials that are close observers of a recent upswing in border violence.

Do you get that, gun grabbers? Strict gun laws are leading to "easier access to weapons." So, in those places where you think there is "easy access to weapons" you should loosen gun laws.

Since January, more than 600 people have been killed in an ongoing war between rival drug cartels using high-powered handguns and assault rifles fighting for control of drug smuggling routes on the Texas-Mexico border.

Ah, the War On (some) Drugs has many benefits. Here's yet another. Not only does it keep our kids off meth, it leads to peace and harmony at and south of the border.

4 posted on 08/16/2005 11:35:23 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

We finally benefit from NAFTA?


5 posted on 08/16/2005 11:35:34 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Gee, what a surprise. The crooks are armed to the teeth and honest folk are at their mercy. And THIS is a GOOD idea?


7 posted on 08/16/2005 11:37:36 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

How about this headline?

"Strict drug laws creating black market for Mexican drugs, which creates the black market for US guns, which both fund organized crime and corrupt both sides of the border"


8 posted on 08/16/2005 11:38:35 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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"Since January, more than 600 people have been killed in an ongoing war between rival drug cartels..."

If Mexican officials would stop accepting bribes and payoffs all the way down the line and crack down on the drug cartels, the violence could be contained.

Awfully handy blaming the US for their violence.


9 posted on 08/16/2005 11:44:39 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

So a guy named Corona, holed up in OHIO, THINKS it would be difficult to predict the outcome of letting honest Mexicans defend themselves? Only to him---he should be given a pistol, sent to Mexico, and told to report later on how it all worked out. The guy should be licensed to carry a concealed brain.


10 posted on 08/16/2005 11:47:30 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Abathar

"We finally benefit from NAFTA"

Great line.


11 posted on 08/16/2005 11:48:04 AM PDT by doc
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“If it was more lax,” he said, “perhaps it would be worse because there is no education in the culture on how to use the guns properly.”

BUT SIR!!! HOW COME THE PEOPLE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO EMPLOY AND CONTROL YOU IN GOVERNMENT BUT NOT SMART ENOUGH TO HAVE THE GUNS TO ENFORCE THAT EDICT???

kind of the catch22 Marx talked about regarding bourgeois idiots.

12 posted on 08/16/2005 11:48:16 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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"Strict drug laws creating black market for Mexican drugs, which creates the black market for US guns, which both fund organized crime and corrupt both sides of the border"

"Strict Mexican gun laws create unofficial anonymous protection from government agents and criminals... an interesting conflict of interest"

13 posted on 08/16/2005 11:49:28 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: SwinneySwitch

The bad guys (Mexican Government Narco Terrorists) , the Marxist narco terrorists, and their hired thugs and coyotes
all all carrying CHI COM AND SOVIET BLOCK WEAPONS...

These did NOT come from America....

Last week the narco terrorists were slinging chi com RPGs
through local cops homes....

These did not come from America...

Try Al Qaeda (financed by Saudi Arabia?) or Castro, Chavez
and their Chi Com buddies

Of course any LIE needed for the JBTs and their NWO string pullers and the leftie MSM to go after honest American's homeland defense weapons...

-imo


14 posted on 08/16/2005 11:54:05 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

We just have to sell them guns that shoot backwards.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 12:01:03 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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"Strict drug laws creating black market for Mexican drugs, which creates the black market for US guns, which both fund organized crime and corrupt both sides of the border"

Truth has no meaning in our Brave New World. We'll hear cries for a War On Guns soon.
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16 posted on 08/16/2005 12:09:25 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: SwinneySwitch

Black market has racist connotations. I suggest "illicit underground transactions".

Oh wait, it's Mexico. It's OK down there.


17 posted on 08/16/2005 12:13:22 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Federal gun seizures show that a majority of weapons used in violent crimes in Mexico were smuggled into the country from the United States or bought through other sources in a lucrative black market.

I'd like to see the breakdown on those figures. How many were smuggled in from the U.S. versus how many were bought through other sources.

SEDENA officials could not be reached for comment. The agency's Web site shows applicants must submit to a background check as well as provide verification of employment and several references.

Or simply fork over some cash.

18 posted on 08/16/2005 12:18:43 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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I'd like to see the breakdown on those figures. How many were smuggled in from the U.S. versus how many were bought through other sources.

Darn.. You took the wind outa my sails.. and the words outa my mouth...

Oh well, there was this other one...
“All the weapons are in the hands of the bad guys,” he said. But at the same time, Corona said it is difficult to predict how changes in Mexico’s gun laws would change the situation.

This is the perfect example of:
"When Guns Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Guns"..

Depending on how Mexico changed their gun laws, I would suggest that things would get really interesting down there for a while..
But after a period of time, the highway robberies would end, as the robbers started getting shot by people that want to keep their money, and their daughter's honor..
Drug dealers would find they were "no longer welcome" ...

But, the real problem, and why Mexico's Gun Laws will not change...
Mexican citizens may decide to get rid of their corrupt government...
Too Bad.. Won't happen..

19 posted on 08/16/2005 12:38:48 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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Darn.. You took the wind outa my sails.. and the words outa my mouth...

I'm just doin' the jobs even the Mexicans won't do! :)

But, the real problem, and why Mexico's Gun Laws will not change...
Mexican citizens may decide to get rid of their corrupt government...
Too Bad.. Won't happen..

Maybe someday they will, but I'm not holding my breath.

20 posted on 08/16/2005 12:46:47 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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