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Judge rules Confederate letters are state property
The Charlotte Observer ^
| Aug. 17, 2005
| AMY GEIER EDGAR
Posted on 08/17/2005 11:45:31 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines
Sounds like this guy is getting the shaft.
The State ought to pay him whatever he could get at auction plus some.
That'd be the way to settle it.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:48:01 AM PDT
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: Between the Lines
Another blow to eminent domain, although there is still a chance that this ruling will be overturned at the Federal level.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:48:05 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Between the Lines
I don't know anything about the docketing system - or it's use as an intent to make the letters a public document.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:49:41 AM PDT
by
Cathy
To: tallhappy
Nah...He should have stuffed them down his pants legs and walked out ..
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:50:54 AM PDT
by
ken5050
(Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
To: Between the Lines
"Oops, sorry, they fell in the fireplace. Too bad."
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:50:59 AM PDT
by
TheBigB
(Gum would be perfection!)
To: Between the Lines
"We owe a debt of gratitude to the Willcox family for preserving the documents all these years," (Attorney General Henry) McMaster said. The rest of the quote "...but we don't owe them a dime because we have the weight of the lawgivers in black on our side."
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:51:05 AM PDT
by
steveegg
(Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
To: HEY4QDEMS
It's not a blow to eminent domain at all, it's a blow for eminent domain. All your property are belong to us, The State.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:51:10 AM PDT
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: Between the Lines
Give the state a bill for 130+ years of storage fees.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:51:30 AM PDT
by
atomicpossum
(Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
To: Between the Lines
"We owe a debt of gratitude to the Willcox family for preserving the documents all these years," McMaster said.Which McMaster will repay by stealing the letters.
To: Between the Lines
U.S. Bankruptcy Judge John Waites issued an order Monday stating that the letters deal with the official duties of the governor and therefore are public records. Huh? Sure, they are public records if they are in the hands of the government, but that shouldn't mean that the government can steal them from whoever owns them.
Does that mean that if a congressman ever wrote you a letter, that some day the government can come and take it from me?
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:51:54 AM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: Between the Lines
"We owe a debt of gratitude to the Willcox family for preserving the documents all these years," McMaster said."
Yes, they do owe the guy something. Why not pay him for what the items are worth?
To: coloradan
Eminent domain calls for "Just Compensation" so I'd have to say a blow to. I guess you could argue both.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:53:11 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
To: Between the Lines
If it's correspondence between generals or between the general and the government, then it is public record - just as correspondence between Rummy and a current general are public records.
But a good argument could be made that since the Confederate government does not exist, then the letters belong to the owner. But then you get into whether or not the Confederacy was ever a legitimate government.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:53:30 AM PDT
by
BostonianRightist
(I don't trust a government I can't shoot back at.)
To: Between the Lines
This sets a really, really bad precedent.
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posted on
08/17/2005 11:55:31 AM PDT
by
xcamel
(Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
To: Between the Lines
Dam Activist Judge. And I thought they honored the Life
Liberty,and Property stuff recognized by our Founders.
To claim a man has no right to the property he psseses is
down right UNAmerican and pure D double Despotism as Mr.
Jefferson warned against.
To: Between the Lines
Is this a case of seizure of personal property without compensation or warrant?
If the guy was trying to sell them to pay off some debts then more power to him. Unfortunately, it sounds like he got shafted for trying to be a responsible bill-paying citizen.
In hindsight, he probably should have published them, copyrighted it, and sold it. Just Damn
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posted on
08/17/2005 12:01:35 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Shawnlaw
(Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks. NRA)
To: Between the Lines
Give the state photocopies of the letters and let the OWNERS keep the originals.
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posted on
08/17/2005 12:01:48 PM PDT
by
msnimje
To: Between the Lines
Property rights thwarted again. This judge is stretching where no man has gone. It truly is assinic.
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posted on
08/17/2005 12:02:00 PM PDT
by
taxesareforever
(Government is running amuck)
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