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Well now we know what Fat Sandy Burglar was stealing out of the archives.
1 posted on 08/17/2005 7:01:06 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla; oceanview; Southack

There is an unseen hand here guiding this story and Able Danger and I'm having trouble figuring out who it is..


2 posted on 08/17/2005 7:05:01 PM PDT by Dog
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To: kellynla

What if Sandy stole something else even more damning.


3 posted on 08/17/2005 7:05:55 PM PDT by Dog
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To: kellynla
Yep.

And this story is not going away.

The big secret is that Democrats who are sick of the Clintons are the ones who are going to push it.
4 posted on 08/17/2005 7:06:19 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: kellynla
Hey, lighten up!! An "honest" politician is one who stays bought! Willie was taking Iraqi oil voucher money through his Swiss friend, Marc Rich, in return for making sure that OBL didn't get hurt. OBL was tipped twice, IIRC, and avoided a US ordnance test both times.

My opinion is that Willie has had a secret Swiss bank account since the Soviets set it up for him in 1963. Saudi and Iraqi money flowed into that account all through the mid and late 90s.

We need to revisit Foster's trips to Switzerland. He would have traveled under a diplomatic passport in whatever name, and would have been able to make deposits/withdrawals at Willie's whim.

Sure, Berger stole proof. But, there has to be other detail and honest people who will help put Hillie and Willie in jail!

13 posted on 08/17/2005 7:19:32 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: kellynla
Hell, Sandy Burglar is just a stupid "soldier" from the Clintonista ranks....
The Feds are too cowered to push the fat bastard into telling the truth....

Too many "rainmakers" could be exposed as being incompetent or instrumental in putting the nation at risk and covering up much that was done by Islamists and denied.

The Clinton administration moved forward, much of the stupid and ignorant practices of the Carter Administration..
Clinton/Carter will go down as perhaps the two most disastrous administrations in our history...

Semper Fi

19 posted on 08/17/2005 7:24:50 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: kellynla
If I'm not mistaken,Sandy Pants is still awaiting final sentencing.

This could be part of a squeeze play to get him talking.Just a thought,I havn't followed all of the intricate details.

31 posted on 08/17/2005 7:37:44 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: kellynla

Remember Mr. Clarke?

He wrote a book.

He testified before the commission.

Yet, he did not have this information?

Either he was really less important or a HUGE LIAR.


48 posted on 08/17/2005 8:07:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: kellynla

BUMP!


50 posted on 08/17/2005 8:09:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kellynla

Here's an interesting timeline put together by Barbara Stock...with a few of my own observations:

Clinton managed to sidestep each Islamic attack, no matter how many Americans died. Clinton called the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 a "crime" and not an Islamic terrorist attack. From the moment Bill Clinton took the oath of office, he seemed to take steps to blind our intelligence capabilities at home and abroad by raising the infamous walls to prevent the transfer of information from one agency to another. The Clinton administration seemed to believe that what people didn't know wouldn't hurt them and did its best to keep the American people in the dark. Because of that, the Clinton legacy is on life-support and 3,000 people died on September 11, 2001.

Americans were told that Bill Clinton obsessed about bin Laden. Night after night the endless parade of excuse-makers was out in force, defending Bill Clinton. But in reality, Clinton was so disinterested in dealing with the Islamic terrorist problem that he had turned over the entire problem to Sandy Berger and Richard Clark. Was Sandy Berger dispatched to dispose of papers that Clinton didn't want the 9/11 Commission to see? Can all the copies of the same document accidentally fall into someone's pants? What commission staffer made the decision to keep the Able Danger files away from most of the 9/11 Commission members? Did any of the members of the 9/11 Commission know about the files? If so, which ones?

Also taking on a more importance is the now reported fact that on four occasions, Spring 1998, June 1999, December 1999, and August 2000 Berger was given plans to kill bin Laden and each time he said, No. Where was Clinton while all this was going on? Not only did Clinton miss these oppurtunities to kill UBL, he has admitted that his administration also refused to take custody of UBL when offered by Sudan in 1996. The administration's reasons for these refusals was because up until this time, they claimed they just didn't have anything to indict on UBL. This was an interesting claim since many of those defending Clinton's own possible indictments often said that a good prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich. But even more disengeuous was that when a sealed indictment was finally issued for UBL in 1998, the words in the indictment specifically accused UBL of terrorist acts, "At various times from at least as early as 1991..."

The Able Danger report is but one piece of an eight-year puzzle. Unfortunately, the last piece was put into place on 9/11. In 1993 Six Americans were killed in the first attack on the World Trade Center but Clinton called it a crime, not an Islamic terrorist attack. In 1993 the FBI identified three "charities" connected to the terrorist organization Hamas. Clinton ignored FBI pleas that he create a "President's List" of extremist and terrorist groups. Clinton feared the political fallout of "profiling" Islamic charities. Money continued to flow freely for the next seven years from America to Islamic terrorists all over the world including al Qaeda.

1994: The " Report of the National Commission on Terrorism " was distributed to the Department of Defense, the Department of State, FEMA, intelligence communities, and members of Congress. "Targets such as the World Trade Center not only provide the requisite casualties but because of their symbolic nature provide more bang for the buck. In order to maximize their odds for success, terrorist groups will likely consider mounting multiple, simultaneous operations with the aim of overtaxing a government's ability to respond, as well as to demonstrate their professionalism and reach."

1995: Even after hearing the report on impending Islamic terror attacks, Rep. Robert Torricelli, D-N.J., convinced Clinton that our spies should not associate with "unsavory" characters. Since most terrorists are unsavory, our window into the movement of Islamic terrorist activity was effectively slammed shut.

1995: The Oklahoma City Bombing left 168 Americans dead, many of them children. Once Tim McVeigh was in custody, all evidence indicating that the two homegrown "whiteys" had funding and assistance from Islamic terrorists was ignored at best, and at worst, covered up. Dealing with Islamic terrorists would have been messy business and Bill was in campaign mode. Clinton did not want to alienate any Muslim voters. Clinton had what he wanted: home grown terrorists so he felt no need to deal with the growing threat from Islamic terrorists.

Also of more importance was the issue of Clinton's legacy with regards to Mid-East Peace. From the moment he stepped foot in office, Clinton made peace between Israel and the Palestinians a top priority. A war on terrorism...or more specifically, Arab/Islamic terrorism, would've made any attempts at getting the Palestinians and their Arab brethern on board much more difficult, if not impossible. Clinton couldn't be too aggressive for fear of alienating the very people he needed to succeed with his Peace Plan.

1995: Al Qaeda began planning the 9/11 attack dubbed "Operation Bojinka." (operation big bang) The first attack on the WTC had failed and bin Laden wanted a second shot at the towers. Plans for this attack were found on the computer of Ramzi Yousef when he was captured. Yousef carried an Iraqi passport and is now in prison for life for his involvement in the first attack on the World Trade Center. There is reason to believe Yousef also trained Terry Nickols in the art of bomb making during Nickols many trips to the Philippines. Richard Clarke, the darling of the left, found it interesting enough to mention in his book that before Nickols went to the Philippines, his bombs didn't work. When Nickols returned, his bombs worked perfectly.

1996: The explosion of TWA Flight 800 killed 230 people. Clinton quickly issued Executive Order 13039 to keep all involved in recovery process silent. The FBI told the hundreds of witnesses, many of them former military, that what they saw was not surface to air missile, but a single firework display. After spending 40 million dollars, Chairman Jim Hall of the National Transportation Safety Board sat before Congress and stated that there was no physical evidence or conclusive forensic evidence to prove it was a mechanical failure that caused the explosion of the center fuel tank on TWA 800. Senator John Kerry is on record twice referring to the TWA 800 disaster a terrorist attack. Pilots called the mechanical failure explanation ridiculous.

1996: The CIA and FBI both warned Clinton they had uncovered a plan involving al Qaeda called the "Martyrdom Battalion" which indicated terrorists were planning to hijack planes and use them as missiles.

1996: The Philippine authorities warned the FBI they had received credible information that al Qaeda was planning on hijacking planes and flying them into Federal Buildings.

1996: (NEWLY RELEASED) "The State Department warned the Clinton administration in July 1996 that Usama bin Laden's move to Afghanistan would give him more fertile ground to spread radical Islam, according to newly declassified documents under FOIA. The documents, released by the legal advocacy group Judicial Watch on Wednesday, say that bin Laden would feel comfortable moving from Sudan to Afghanistan, which "has become an even more desirable location for extremists. Afghanistan may be an ideal haven as long as bin Laden can continue to run his businesses and financial networks." It should be noted that this warning was issued during the period that Clinton was refusing extradition of UBL from Sudan.

1997: Madeleine Albright became Secretary of State. Ms. Albright, in defense of Clinton offered up perhaps the single most absurd excuse ever given for the Clinton failures: "This is hard to say and I haven't found a way to say it that doesn't sound crass, but it is the truth that those {attacks before Sept. 11} were happening overseas and while there were Americans who died, there were not thousands and it did not happen on U. S. soil."

1998: Bin Laden issued one of two fatwas urging his followers to target the United States and all Americans.

1999: Clinton's own secretary of defense, William Cohen, in a July 1999 op-ed piece in the Washington Post, predicted a terrorist attack on America's mainland.

1999: "Project Megiddo" went public on the FBI website. It was a directive given in 1995 to the FBI from Bill Clinton to direct their investigative efforts towards only domestic terrorism such as the Christian right and militias. No effort was to be made to link any American group with Islamic terrorists. It should be noted that one of the recent excuses for not going after Atta (Able Danger) was because he was here "legally"...and the administration didn't want another "Waco" mistake. Yet, if we are to believe this memo, Clinton didn't seem to have a problem going after US citizens and reacting to "domestic terrorism" if needed.

1999: The Transportation Security Administration altered a terrorist report to exclude all references to foreign terrorists. David Holmes, head of the Commerce Department zeroed in on white militia groups in a 1999 threat analysis. Commerce officials who worked on the case say Holmes' exclusion of every threat group that wasn't white was in keeping with what they say was the Clinton administration policy of focusing on domestic threats from white militia groups, rather than Islamic groups, in combating terrorism. "Holmes made us take out every group that wasn't white, no minority groups allowed. He was toeing the liberal line of the Clinton administration.

2000: The Pentagon's intelligence group, Able Danger, tried to pass on information about a terror cell in NYC that included four future highjackers of 9/11 to the FBI on three occasions but was refused each time.

2001: Because of the walls thrown up by the Clinton administration and Clinton's refusal to face the Islamic enemy stalking America, "Operation Bojinka," the 9/11 attack, went on without any interference from American intelligence agencies that were blinded by Clinton's fear of the messy business that is Islamic terrorism.

Now the 9/11 Commission is struggling to explain how it could have missed 15 boxes of vital information gathered by Able Danger. When the dust settles, I suspect Americans will discover the Commission didn't miss it at all. It just hoped it would go away. What happened can't be changed and why bring down an ex-president seems to be the motto of the day.
 


72 posted on 08/18/2005 10:54:39 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses.)
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