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Bush Admin. Briefed on Able Danger After Attacks
NewsMax ^ | 8/18/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 08/18/2005 9:46:51 AM PDT by wagglebee

Two weeks after the 9/11 the attacks, the Bush administration was told that a special military intelligence unit code named Able Danger had developed actionable intelligence two years earlier that could have foiled the 9/11 plot, a member of the Able Danger team revealed on Wednesday.

Among the Able Danger evidence shared with the Bush National Security Council: a chart put together before 9/11 featuring a picture of lead hijacker Mohamed Atta. Asked why he didn't go public before this week with the news that his group had been tracking Atta during the Clinton administration, Able Danger team member Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer told ABC radio host Sean Hannity:

"Within two weeks of the attack, this colleague of mine ... she took that very poster [with Mohamed Atta] to Congressman [Curt] Weldon," Shaffer said. "And I have to say he took it right to Michael Hadley, I believe, over at the NSC."

"It's my understanding that he gave him that chart and Hadley had a great deal of interest in it," he added.

Once the Bush administration had been briefed, Shaffer said, he thought the information would be handled properly. "[I felt] that we were good to go - that everything was going to be solved," he told Hannity.

The military intelligence sleuth stressed, however, "I'm not criticizing the Bush administration here. They're doing everything in their power to prevent this now. I think they're fully behind what we're doing. I think the Pentagon right now is fully behind me trying to get the word out and trying to get to the bottom of this."

Shaffer credited his still unidentified Able Danger colleague with managing the technical side of the program.

"The doctor who put this all together is brilliant. I mean, I cannot speak high enough of her and her brilliance in being able to break the code on this. She was able, through the technology used, to somehow pull out of all this amorphous data usable, actionable information."

"And that's where things kind of got off track," Shaffer explained. "Because at the same time she pulled that out, we then were trying to look at how we could exploit that information. And that's where the lawyers got involved."

Shaffer said that immediately after the 9/11 attacks, this same colleague alerted him to the fact that the Able Danger team had developed intelligence on the hijack team, a detail he hadn't noticed.

"My colleague called me in and said, 'Look, we knew these guys.' And I was shocked. It was like, in the pit of my stomach there was just this sinking feeling, like - we knew. We knew this!"

Congressman Weldon has previously described three attempts by Able Danger to brief the FBI on the Atta intelligence, before being blocked by lawyers at the Clinton Pentagon.

Those lawyers have yet to be identified.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 43couldnotcareless; abledanger; atta; bush; bushloved911commish; clinton; clintonfailure; clintonlegacy; gorelickmemo; impeached42; mexicofirstyoufreaks; september12era; sinkemperor; weldon; x42
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The military intelligence sleuth stressed, however, "I'm not criticizing the Bush administration here. They're doing everything in their power to prevent this now. I think they're fully behind what we're doing. I think the Pentagon right now is fully behind me trying to get the word out and trying to get to the bottom of this."

But what this points to is yet another Klintoon fiasco, and this time it was one of the deadliest and most damaging in history.

Maybe fata$$ Michael Moore would like to do a movie about how BJ knew there might be an attack coming and made it impossible to tell the FBI.

1 posted on 08/18/2005 9:46:55 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

What does Richard Clarke have to say about Able Danger?


2 posted on 08/18/2005 9:50:22 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: wagglebee

"Maybe fata$$ Michael Moore would like to do a movie about how BJ knew there might be an attack"

Michael Moore should be profoundly embarrassed - if he was capable of the emotion.


3 posted on 08/18/2005 9:51:21 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Phantom Lord

I have a feeling we will never hear from Clarke again. They are just hoping that Sandy Burglar got everything out of the National Archives.


4 posted on 08/18/2005 9:52:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: popdonnelly

Hell, he said that Bush knew about the attack, and now we are fairly certain that Klintoon definitely knew.


5 posted on 08/18/2005 9:53:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
"Because at the same time she pulled that out, we then were trying to look at how we could exploit that information. And that's where the lawyers got involved."

Typical lawyers. They screw everything up and then send you a bill for 50% more hours than they actually worked at $300 per hour.

6 posted on 08/18/2005 9:53:29 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: wagglebee; All

Last year there was a stink about some PDB. This is more serious than some stupid PDB imho..


7 posted on 08/18/2005 9:53:39 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: wagglebee

"Two weeks after" the attacks the Bush administration knew that there had been prior knowledge.

The key is who knew before and why the knowledge was suppressed or lost.


8 posted on 08/18/2005 9:58:08 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US. http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: wagglebee

Who are these lawyers? What is their story?


9 posted on 08/18/2005 9:58:19 AM PDT by maxter
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To: wagglebee

Time for another Able Danger whistle blower to come out.


10 posted on 08/18/2005 10:00:56 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: maxter

Pentagon lawyers...badgered by the White House, worried about PC, and directed by the Clintonistas to not share information with the FBI.


11 posted on 08/18/2005 10:01:24 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: Phantom Lord

"What does Richard Clarke have to say about Able Danger?"

He never heard of it. What does he have to say about Sandy Berger stealing his memo from the National Archives?


12 posted on 08/18/2005 10:01:40 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly
What does he have to say about Sandy Berger stealing his memo from the National Archives? >>>>

He never heard of it, either.

13 posted on 08/18/2005 10:05:51 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: mercy

Bet when the PHD lady who came up with the face chart is revealed, she will have her extended families trailer-homes detailed by the NYT and her entire career will get a rectal exam by RAT-finks. Maybe it's best she stay in the shadows under Rummy's care.


14 posted on 08/18/2005 10:08:04 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: wagglebee
This in the leftist's warped world will be spun into a "Bush Knew" spew...


15 posted on 08/18/2005 10:09:48 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: popdonnelly

Moore is no more able to feel embarassment as he is able to pass up a plate of donuts.

As Sheehan is proving, it is much easier to be a nut job...you can say anything that comes to your mind, true or not.


16 posted on 08/18/2005 10:16:03 AM PDT by HRoarke (Under Construction)
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To: darkwing104

No, it will be spun into a "this is all just a distraction from the Rove/CIA leak case." Fire Rove!!


17 posted on 08/18/2005 10:17:23 AM PDT by massfreeper
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To: darkwing104
This in the leftist's warped world will be spun into a "Bush Knew" spew...

Bush shouldn't be the one to do it, but I think either Cheney, Rumsfeld or Rice should hold a major news conference and tell the world that it is very possible that 9/11 could have been avoided were it not for the incompetence of the Clintonistas.

18 posted on 08/18/2005 10:23:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Phantom Lord
Clarkie is busy worrying about cyber terror.

Planes into buildings.......not a chance.

19 posted on 08/18/2005 10:32:24 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: darkwing104
Definitely will be Bush problem -- Nothing sticks to Clintons I fell your pain George....Yeah, Right
20 posted on 08/18/2005 10:32:46 AM PDT by FaithintheRight (Knowing the Bible is one thing. Knowing the Author is another!)
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To: Phantom Lord

The same as all of the usual DemLib bigmouths - nothing!


21 posted on 08/18/2005 10:43:08 AM PDT by Solamente
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To: wagglebee
Why wasn't the Bush administration briefed before the attack?
22 posted on 08/18/2005 11:29:04 AM PDT by sydbas
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To: carl in alaska
They could be Clinton appointee lawyers assigned to the Pentagon -- a huge distinction. We don't know which lawyers, which of course the MSM considers irrelevant.
23 posted on 08/18/2005 11:39:49 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: sydbas
Why wasn't the Bush administration briefed before the attack?

That's the question the Clintonistas should be forced under oath to answer.

24 posted on 08/18/2005 11:48:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: mwl1
We don't know which lawyers, which of course the MSM considers irrelevant.

Hell, the media considers this entire story irrelevant. It directly implicates the Klintoon regime and the media will avoid that at any cost. They would much rather give around the clock coverage to the left's puppet, Cindy Sheehan.

25 posted on 08/18/2005 11:51:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: sydbas

"Why wasn't the Bush administration briefed before the attack?"

Good question. That statement troubles me. And no doubt the rats will run with this and spin it in their best interests.


26 posted on 08/18/2005 11:56:13 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: mwl1
"They could be Clinton appointee lawyers assigned to the Pentagon -- a huge distinction."

Quite likely. This sad incident adds to a mountain of evidence that the Clinton administration's handling of our national security was a total cluster f###.

27 posted on 08/18/2005 12:09:15 PM PDT by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: wagglebee

"...she took that very poster [with Mohamed Atta] to Congressman [Curt] Weldon," Shaffer said. "And I have to say he took it right to Michael Hadley, I believe, over at the NSC."

Who is Michael Hadly.. doesn't he mean Stephen Hadly?


28 posted on 08/18/2005 12:56:22 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: wagglebee
Hell, he said that Bush knew about the attack, and now we are fairly certain that Klintoon definitely knew.

Where do you get that ststaement from?

The article said Bush Administration briefed AFTER attacks.
29 posted on 08/18/2005 1:01:54 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: SeaBiscuit

Agreed. Can't see our side trying to fry any chicken at all with this, and I don't understand why not.


30 posted on 08/18/2005 1:06:04 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Republican Red
I think you are mis-reading what I wrote.

In "Farencrap 911," Fatass basically stated that Bush had knowledge of the plot prior to 9/11. This is of course pure bullsh*t, but the left doesn't care.

What I was trying to point out is that we now know for certain that the Clintonistas had direct knowledge of Atta and could have acted to prevent 9/11. I was sarcastically wondering why Moore wouldn't do a movie on the hypocrisy of this.

31 posted on 08/18/2005 1:13:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Sorry!

I'm a redhead on edge. Didn't mean to jump on you. I miss read what you wrote.

After Sheehan, the media and now Able Danger screw-ups by Clinton, I've had about all the moonbat crud I can take.
32 posted on 08/18/2005 1:18:19 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: wagglebee

Now this really p!sses me off. Why did they cover for the Clintons? Why did they keep Tenet around for far too long? Why didn't they honor the dead with the truth? Why do we have wide open borders to this day? Why do we have the silliest excuse for airport security, maximum inconvenience and minimal profiling?

Well, it's nice to know that we were right all along, that as more info is declassified, our well founded suspicions are being validated. Unfortunately, the more we find out, the more the Bush Admin is going to have to answer for their inaction regarding Clinton.


33 posted on 08/18/2005 1:24:50 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: ovrtaxt

New bumper sticker:

Clinton KNEW, Monica BLEW, Bin Laden FLED, 3000 DEAD!


34 posted on 08/18/2005 2:45:58 PM PDT by mobyss
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To: wagglebee
And that's where the lawyers got involved.

Famous last words. Just ask the people who died in the towers.
35 posted on 08/18/2005 2:49:20 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: darkwing104

My sentiments exactly. Boycott the unholy trinity (ABC,NBC,CBS, oh and CNN) until they begin to tell the news (instead of how they want everyone to think).


36 posted on 08/18/2005 3:17:07 PM PDT by whenigettime
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To: carl in alaska

Why hasn't anyone named the lawyers yet?


37 posted on 08/18/2005 3:22:17 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: wagglebee

The big problem here is that Bush has been reluctant to go after the past administration. Even where it's warranted. This "uniter not a divider" thing, I feel, has been taken a little bit too far. Sometimes, you have to be mean.


38 posted on 08/18/2005 3:31:13 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Answer: Bush: "I am a uniter, not a divider."

Bush is a known devotee to Dale Carnegie methodologies.

Certainly, there is a place for them, for example, when dealing with civilized, honorable people, or even ones not quite to that level but whose hearts are in the right place. But the problem is, when dealing with cutthroats, traitors and Communists, you CANNOT use Dale Carnegie - if you do, you'll get stabbed in the back! This is where I critique Bush. If ever there was a clear situation where being heavy handed was called for, it is in dealing with the treason and crimes of the past administration. Come on people, go after the villains! Don't worry about what the Left will say! Go after Janet Sterno, Slick "Cigar" Willie, Fats Richardson, and the whole lot of them! And do it soon, before the '08 horse race begins! Etc ...


39 posted on 08/18/2005 3:37:31 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: wagglebee
Asked why he didn't go public before this week with the news that his group had been tracking Atta during the Clinton administration, Able Danger team member Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer told ABC radio host Sean Hannity:

I saw this guy on TV and my impression was that he couldn't give a straight answer to any of the questions posed. It was all pretty vague. I'd like to hear more details from other people who can explain exactly what happened.

Shaffer said that immediately after the 9/11 attacks, this same colleague alerted him to the fact that the Able Danger team had developed intelligence on the hijack team, a detail he hadn't noticed.

If it was actionable intelligence why did he not notice it? Maybe it was just something in a mass of information that had been gathered whose relevance was not noticed until after 9/11.

40 posted on 08/18/2005 3:37:34 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: ovrtaxt

"Now this really p!sses me off. Why did they cover for the Clintons? Why did they keep Tenet around for far too long? Why didn't they honor the dead with the truth? Why do we have wide open borders to this day? Why do we have the silliest excuse for airport security, maximum inconvenience and minimal profiling?"

You raise some good points but I'd like to point out some things.

I've seen a lot of ranting and raving about similar operations proposed by the Bush administration. It wasn't but a year or so ago that the Bush administration was under ferocious attack by the 'real conservatives' about monitoring communications and using data mining software to make connections and track terrorists. They backed off these proposals.

I'm not defending Bush or attacking Clinton only pointing out that there are a lot of 'real conservatives' who would have been all over any administration that used this kind of operation. There was a hundred or so threads here on free republic criticizing the Bush administration for even thinking of doing this.


41 posted on 08/18/2005 3:42:49 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Two weeks after the 9/11 the attacks, the Bush administration was told that a special military intelligence unit code named Able Danger had developed actionable intelligence two years earlier that could have foiled the 9/11 plot,

I want to know when the Clinton administration was told about this...and by whom.

42 posted on 08/18/2005 3:49:50 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: wagglebee

waiting for the "above the fold" stories in the SLIMES,WASH POST Boston Globe yada yada


43 posted on 08/18/2005 3:53:07 PM PDT by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: DugwayDuke

I know. It's a fine line. I am not a fan of the Patriot Act, for one reason and only this reason- eventually, another Janet Reno is going to come along. Then what?

The point remains, though, that action against our domestic enemies as well as our foreign enemies should have happened. The best way to do it is to suspend habeas corpus according to Article 1 Sec.9- not pass unconstitutional laws that can be used against citizens in the future.

However, Bush's loyalty to failures like Tenet, when it was glaringly obvious to a Joe Nobody like me that he needed to be fired ASAP, is mystifying.

Now we know that Able Danger was disclosed to the WH right after 911, and that eventually, that stupid 911 Commission was allowed to proceed anyway. THEY KNEW IT WAS A WHITEWASH THE WHOLE TIME. All of them. The Clinton AND the Bush folks.

Who the hell do we trust anymore? The GOP is really pushing it. This type of info will trickle out eventually. Right now, it's only floating around among us blog geeks, but it will have fallout. What are they thinking?

Not only that, some slimy Democrat is going to throw this back in the face of their opponent during 2006, and the MSM will back them, making it look like only the GOP is dirty. It's stupid politics.


44 posted on 08/18/2005 4:35:38 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: rang1995
waiting for the "above the fold" stories in the SLIMES,WASH POST Boston Globe yada yada

Hell, I'm waiting to see it on A27!

45 posted on 08/18/2005 5:51:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to notice that the White House was told about the Able Danger-Atta identification 2 weeks after 9/11. Rep. Weldon said as much in his House floor statements back in June. He was even hinting at it in a speech he gave to the Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis in December 2003.
46 posted on 08/18/2005 6:08:10 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: dearolddad

Well I assume the pentagon lawyers were just doing what Gorelick and the top Clintonistas told them to do. So there's not much point in naming the lawyers. This problem was caused by the PC Clinton White House.


47 posted on 08/20/2005 11:55:54 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: wagglebee

LOL! I have a feeling Michael Moore than enough and the MSM don't want anything to do with this story other than perhaps saying that Bush was briefed! That they may talk about leaving out the quote that says he isn't to blame!

This should be the biggest scandal in our history, and would be had a republican president been in office at the time. If this doesn't prove media bias, nothing on earth does.


48 posted on 08/20/2005 11:59:01 AM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: wagglebee
Congressman Weldon has previously described three attempts by Able Danger to brief the FBI on the Atta intelligence, before being blocked by lawyers at the Clinton Pentagon.

Those lawyers have yet to be identified.


Lawyers! freaking lawyers! Clinton Pentagon lawyers! Supreme Court lawyers!

lawyers! lawyers! lawyers! lawyers!

Houston, we have a problem.
49 posted on 08/20/2005 12:09:19 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: carl in alaska

when one administration leaves are they not supposed to brief the incoming administration ,i believe they call it the transition team or something like that .Has anyone asked if during this transition was the Bush administration advised of the fact there were Al Quaida cells in the country ?What else were they told or not told during this transition which took longer than usual because of the contested election


50 posted on 08/20/2005 12:23:43 PM PDT by ballplayer
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