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To: r9etb
If he did (and I guess that's what the trial found), then illegals have just as much right to sue over bodily harm as anybody else.

No, they don't. They are here by breaking a law, if they get harmed it is because they were committing a crime and in it's commission were harmed. The only legal standing they have is to be prosecuted for being here illegally and any illegals with them are to be prosecuted for causing harm to which ever illegal was injured.

All, or almost all, states have laws that state that if injury is caused, including death, during th commission of a crime the perpetrators are guilty of the bodily injury up to and including murder.

Instead of being awarded a citizens property as a reward for committing a crime they should all ( however many there were) be in jail awaiting deportation.

71 posted on 08/19/2005 10:29:55 AM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: calex59
They are here by breaking a law, if they get harmed it is because they were committing a crime and in it's commission were harmed. The only legal standing they have is to be prosecuted for being here illegally and any illegals with them are to be prosecuted for causing harm to which ever illegal was injured.

So, by that logic, you can simply go to Los Angeles and shoot illegal immigrants, since they have no legal standing and are committing a crime by being on US soil. Is that what you're saying?

83 posted on 08/19/2005 10:38:47 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: calex59
All, or almost all, states have laws that state that if injury is caused, including death, during th commission of a crime the perpetrators are guilty of the bodily injury up to and including murder.

First off, you need to read the full article. It describes the situation in some detail.

Next, the "perpetrators," as you call them, had been captured and were being held. At that point, Mr. Nethercott should simply have called INS, and been done with it. At that point, there was no more crime being committed, but rather a group of citizens having done their civic duty. Nice job, fellas.

But apparently Mr. Nethercott wasn't content to stop there. Instead, he decided to pistol whip one of the guys -- which is assault, not "self defense" as you're trying to paint it. Even illegal immigrants have legal protection from assault, even if it's committed by an American citizen.

And then to top it all off, Nethercott and his pals didn't call the INS, but instead let the two fellows go!!!! Doesn't that make them accessories to a crime?

As usual, there's more to the story, and this time it's right in the linked article.

93 posted on 08/19/2005 10:47:10 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: calex59
No, they don't. They are here by breaking a law, if they get harmed it is because they were committing a crime and in it's commission were harmed.

The legal question is whether the ranch owners had the legal right to do what they did to these illegals.

The fact that illegals are breaking the law does not give others the right to commit crimes and assaults against them.

The only legal standing they have is to be prosecuted for being here illegally and any illegals with them are to be prosecuted for causing harm to which ever illegal was injured.

You don't really understand how the law works.

120 posted on 08/19/2005 11:35:45 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: calex59
All, or almost all, states have laws that state that if injury is caused, including death, during th commission of a crime the perpetrators are guilty of the bodily injury up to and including murder.

Does that mean that I can kill a shoplifter?
243 posted on 08/19/2005 1:58:43 PM PDT by freakboy
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