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Four US Soldiers Killed by Bomb in Southern Afghanistan
BBC Online ^ | 21 August | BBC News Online

Posted on 08/21/2005 2:08:14 AM PDT by Brit_Guy

Four US soldiers have been killed and three wounded in a roadside bomb explosion in southern Afghanistan, the US military said. The explosion took place as they were on patrol in the Daychopan district, Zabul province, it said in a statement.

The three wounded were hurt while trying to pull the others out of their armoured vehicle which had been hit by the explosion.

Earlier on Sunday, suspected Taleban fighters killed two Islamic clerics.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; fallen; oef; qalat; soldiers; zabul
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1 posted on 08/21/2005 2:08:15 AM PDT by Brit_Guy
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To: Brit_Guy

R.I.P. indeed. For my edification, if there's 1800 dead in Iraq, how many US lives have been given for Afghanistan---a "multi-national" and "politcally correct" war?

Do the moonbats mean that these soldiers and marines can make a noble ultimate sacrifice for freedom there but not in Iraq?


2 posted on 08/21/2005 2:12:32 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Brit_Guy
Earlier on Sunday, suspected Taleban fighters killed two Islamic clerics.

Muslims... They eat their own children.

3 posted on 08/21/2005 2:12:48 AM PDT by konaice
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To: All

May God comfort the families and friends of the dead and wounded soldiers.
May God guide the doctors, caregivers and nurses as they tend to the wounded soldiers.

In Jesus' name.
Amen.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 2:13:55 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: TexKat; All

OFF TOPIC...

Note: The following text is an exact quote:
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http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Aug2005/20050819_2487.html


U.S. General Details Afghan Election Effort

By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan, Aug. 19, 2005 – The Afghan and coalition effort to hold elections Sept. 18 is ongoing, and the process will extend until the National Assembly is seated in December or January, the head of Combined Forces Command Afghanistan said today.
Army Lt. Gen. Karl Eikenberry spoke with reporters traveling with Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Myers is in the midst of a 10-day trip that has taken him and a USO troupe to Germany, Kosovo, Kuwait and Iraq before stopping here and at the main air base in Afghanistan in Bagram.

Eikenberry said he is "very comfortable" with what has already been done and with what has been planned for the September elections. He said the process is based on the successes seen in the October 2004 presidential election.

"The basic concept is pretty simple," he said. There will be thousands of polling places set up around the country. Six Afghan police will be stationed inside the polling stations to maintain order and provide close-in security.

Officials will place a ring of Afghan police or soldiers from the Afghan National Army around the polling stations. Supporting them will be quick-reaction forces from the Army or police.

Still farther outside will be coalition forces or members of NATO's International Security Assistance Force. There are about 8,500 soldiers in ISAF and about 21,000 servicemembers in the coalition force - most of them American.

The Afghan government has about 25,000 soldiers in the Afghan National Army and about 50,000 Afghan National Police, Eikenberry said. "We're the final ring of quick-reaction forces," he said. "The closer you get in to the polling site itself, the more it is an Afghan-led and Afghan-conducted operation."

The Afghan government developed the security plan with assistance from staff at Eikenberry's headquarters.

Last October an overwhelming number of Afghans defied the Taliban and al Qaeda remnants in the country and voted Hamid Karzai into the presidency.

But the process does not end when Afghans cast their votes on Sept. 18. It won't be until the end of October that official results will be announced. The newly elected members of the National Assembly may not take their seats until the middle of December or even January. "The election process is not over until that parliament is seated," Eikenberry said.

The general said the coalition and Afghan soldiers have kept the pressure on the Taliban during the summer months - typically the time of combat in the country.

He said that Afghan security capacity has grown dramatically since the presidential elections and that Afghan soldiers participate in roughly 65 percent of all operations in the country.

If the Afghans and coalition do not take the fight to the enemy, the Taliban will "attack innocents," Eikenberry said. The Taliban extremists will attempt to disrupt the election by intimidating candidates, murdering poll workers and launching attacks against polling places.

He said there is probably more Taliban in the field today than last year. "The explanation can be that the Taliban leadership ... is trying to put together combinations of forces to come at this election, knowing that if they suffer a defeat in this election, that is another huge strategic setback for them in the long term," he said.

Army Maj. Gen. Jason Kamiya, the commander of Combined Joint Task Force 76 based in Bagram, said that between April and June, his forces had killed between 450 and 500 Taliban fighters. He said it seems as if the Taliban is trying to "thicken" its forces in the country to disrupt the election.

The coalition has responded by bringing in the 1st Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry, from Fort Bragg, N.C., this summer. This addition enables the coalition to maintain its offensive against the Taliban and disrupt them before they can attack.

Kamiya said the strategy seems to be having an effect: The Taliban fighters they are coming up against are younger and less experienced than in the past. Control issues in the organization also means the fighters are staying in larger groups. "We're fine with that," Kamiya said.

Eikenberry said coalition forces are able to range much farther and with more persistence than last year. "The reason is a more capable Afghan National Army," he said.

The general is on his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. His first assignment was as head of the U.S. security coordinator and chief of the Office of Military Cooperation for a year ending in September 2003.

He said since taking over the command three months ago, he has traveled to 15 provinces in the country and spoken to more than a thousand Afghans of all ethnicities and walks of life.

"I ask if they are aware of the election. They say 'yes,'" he said. "I ask if they are going to vote, they answer in the typical Afghan way by saying, 'Why not?' And then I ask them why they will vote and they say, 'I'm going to vote because I'm tired of warfare and I should have a stake now in the future of our country.'"

"Between now and the 18th of September (the enemy) can't beat that," he said.


Related Site:
Combined Forces Command Afghanistan

Related Article:
Eikenberry Takes Command of Coalition Forces in Afghanistan


5 posted on 08/21/2005 2:15:27 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Brit_Guy
Zabul province is the hot zone right now. Terrorists are bouncing from the border and coalition and Afghans are attempting to link the Kabul-Kandahar highway.
6 posted on 08/21/2005 2:19:59 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: Brit_Guy

7 posted on 08/21/2005 2:23:12 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: sam_paine

There have been 228 U.S. military fatalities in Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan).


8 posted on 08/21/2005 2:26:50 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: Brit_Guy

This is the last chance for Muslims and the region. That said, we owe Afghanistan a bit more than Iraq, since some say we used it as a devil's playground in a surrogate war against Russia. Stinger missiles, etc.. These same apologists complain that we allowed Iran and Iraq to butt heads for years, with the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives -- including children whom Iranians used to clear mine fields. The common theme in all this is that everything is the fault of the US so we owe them. In fact, we owe the world. Who knew winning the Cold War would leave us holding the bag.


9 posted on 08/21/2005 2:40:18 AM PDT by hershey
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To: endthematrix; Brit_Guy

http://www.afghana.com/GetLocal/Afghanistan/Provinces/Zabol.htm

I would have guessed this attack took place east of the highway but it was in the very north or northwest of Zobol province out near Oruzgan province.

My son left Zobol province in April and even then he said this uptick in attacks was coming.


10 posted on 08/21/2005 2:43:20 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Zabol. It's spelled many different ways.


11 posted on 08/21/2005 2:44:56 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: sam_paine
For my edification, if there's 1800 dead in Iraq, how many US lives have been given for Afghanistan---a "multi-national" and "politcally correct" war?

As of today: Afghanistan, 224 deaths, not counting the ones in this post, and Marine Philip George, who has been ID'd by his mother as the Marine killed in easter Stan on the 19th, but not by HQ USMC yet. So that would be 229.

http://www.icasualties.org/oef/Afghanistan.aspx

The number in Iraq is at 1836 at the moment. I don't have a breakdown on the casualties here at hand, but generally, about one in every four or five deaths is a non-hostile casualty. For instance, two Rangers drowned when their vehicle tumbled into a river.

My regiment has suffered far more in Afghanistan than Iraq. My group has been very, very lucky. I guess you could say we're underrepresented on that list.

For what it's worth, most of the left-end Democrats and other leftists oppose the war in Afghanistan, too.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

12 posted on 08/21/2005 2:51:38 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (I wouldn't actually wish this fate on politicians -- or on prisoners.)
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To: sam_paine

Cindy Sheehan is against the war in afganistan but you never hear about that. She wants immediate pullout from afganistan.

About 230 u.s soldiers killed in iraq probably about half in hostile action. Around 75 multinational forces killed there.

Media doesn't care about the deaths in afganistan because it doesn't get ratings. You notice media left afganistan long ago.


13 posted on 08/21/2005 2:58:18 AM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: hershey

The road to democracy, and a democratic republic in the case of the US wasn't all beer and skittles after we beat Cornwallis and the Brits went home. A couple of years passed before they signed the Treaty of Trent, and after that we were plagued by all sorts of European meddlers...the War of 1812 comes to mind. As for the Middle East, they've been defrauded and abused by their own rulers for years. Poor, mostly jobless, illiterate, and brainwashed.

Those lucky enough to study in the US can't help comparing conditions to life back home and some blame us. They bite the hand that feeds them. Psychologists said this happens often with children who've been terribly abused and molested. Those who take them in end up dealing with pent up misplaced anger. We're the Great Satan, so they fly planes into the World Trade Center and murder those who come to bring them democracy and the chance for a decent life. Moonbats, indeed.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 3:08:54 AM PDT by hershey
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To: leadpenny

God keep your son safe, leadpenny.


15 posted on 08/21/2005 3:10:13 AM PDT by hershey
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To: johnmecainrino
60 Minutes is coming here this week or next.
16 posted on 08/21/2005 3:12:40 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: hershey

Thank you. I pray for all of our troops and their families.


17 posted on 08/21/2005 3:18:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
My son left Zobol province in April and even then he said this uptick in attacks was coming.

I have been hearing similar rumours, from journalists who visited the area, and also say that the border region to Pakistan is hopping, and the northern border with China is out of bounds.

18 posted on 08/21/2005 3:30:05 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: leadpenny

Have you read Michael On's blogs from Iraq? They're fascinating....he's a heck of a writer and he tells the truth. Someone posted the link on FR last week. I clicked it and was lost for hours.


19 posted on 08/21/2005 3:38:21 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Brit_Guy

Rest In Peace


20 posted on 08/21/2005 5:29:20 AM PDT by M203
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