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To: Arkie2
Why would you expect peace and quiet at 430 am on a weekend? Maybe you should just scramble some eggs in the kitchen.

So are you making the argument that based on time and location it is ok to act like an asshat in a business establishment annoying other customers. After all it was a breakfast joint not a bar.

38 posted on 08/21/2005 6:25:27 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Fzob

It's up to the owner to enforce rules of decorum in his establishment and if he thinks it's getting out of line he can call the cops. Nothing written here by cholic Joe indicates these guys were anything other than noisy. That's not a crime where I come from.


50 posted on 08/21/2005 6:30:00 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Fzob
So are you making the argument that based on time and location it is ok to act like an asshat in a business establishment annoying other customers. After all it was a breakfast joint not a bar.


Well Doh! Yes, the time and place can dictate behaviour. It was 4:30 am, a time most are not up. This group evidently had been up all night. They were feeling good, and as those that drink a little too much will do, they were loud. The place was empty until CJ should up. If I was writing rules of behaviour, it would allow the group that was there first to continue as they were, it is up to the new guy to decide if he wants to stay or go.

It has been a very long time since I was young enough to pull an all nighter, but I can remember being loud and annoying, and if I could I would apologize to all those I may have offended, but I do excuse such behavior as being young and foolish and full of life. I tend to give young people the benefit of doubt when it comes to this type of behavior, since society will soon beat it out of them as they mature.

179 posted on 08/21/2005 7:24:01 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Fzob; Arkie2
Why would you expect peace and quiet at 430 am on a weekend? Maybe you should just scramble some eggs in the kitchen.

So are you making the argument that based on time and location it is ok to act like an asshat in a business establishment annoying other customers.

That is for the business owner to decide and enforce not for an armed customer to decide and enforce.

Some eateries such as, say, "Dirty Nellie's", might cater to the loud-drunks-getting-sobered-up-at-4:30AM crowd. Some like, say, "Grandma's Home Kitchen", might cater to the quiet-as-a-mouse crowd. Some like, say, "Chuck-E-Cheese", cater to the families-with-young-and-very-loud-and-very-annoying-children-running-amuck crowd.

I can see it now......

Place: "Chuck-E-Cheese".

Time: 7:30 PM

Customer Wanting Peace and Quiet: "Could you please keep your children quiet and under control? I'm just trying to have a peaceful meal."

Total chaos continues.

Customer Wanting Peace and Quiet: "I asked you to keep your children quite and under control."

Dad: Scratches his forehead with his extended middle finger.

Customer Wanting Peace and Quiet: Circles the table twice. Ensures his weapon is seen and says, "I will say it again. Keep you children quiet and under control. I want to have a peaceful meal and not be annoyed."

Dad: "Yes, Sir."

Chuck-E-Cheese gradualy gets quieter and quieter and then emptier and emptier until it is totally empty and quiet except for the customer now enjoying his peaceful meal.

Fifteen minutes later......

BULLHORN: "Sir, this is this is the SWAT Team. Our snipers have you in their sights. Slowly raise your hands and put them behind your head. Now, slowly stand up. Lie on the ground with your arms and legs spread-eagle and fingers spread out....."

Two minutes later.....


332 posted on 08/21/2005 9:40:12 AM PDT by Polybius
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