[kjam22]

I'm in the group that feels like getting our guys shot up for these people was not really the right thing to do. I've been saying for more than a year now that this is Babylon.... and that there was no way there would be a western style democracy/republic there. Those people are not capable of self rule. It has always, and will always be that way.

Hence the WH statements about how establishing freedom was the way to defeat terrorism has never made sense to me. We should get our guys out of the way... and then bomb those people until they surrender.... plain and simple.

[lemura]

bomb those people until they surrender.... plain and simple.

Right now our troops are being sacrificed to eliminate any doubt about whether the ME can pull itself together. The next time we go in, it will be more in the style of the Civil War/WWII. The enemy will never be ready to reform until it's brought home to civilians.