Posted on 08/22/2005 1:04:15 PM PDT by The_Victor
I never said that. I said that it is possible that the insurgents from places like "Palestine," for example, and even elsewhere, wouldn't be so psyched to make the trip if they couldn't get a chance at killing the folks from the Great Satan.
Do you not believe that that opportunity is somewhat of an incentive? That packing up and leaving for Iraq isn't so appealing if all that you can do is kill Iraqis?
Smacking head ... thanks oWf. I am in the middle of 14 things at the moment and keep checking in. I will refrain from posting until I can focus. Thanks ;*)
Well, they're not doing so well, if that's their goal, because they're mostly killing innocent Iraqis.
But that's beside the point..............no, actually, it makes MY point.
The fact that they are packing up and going to Iraq means that they're not plotting to kill the folks from the Great Satan in our homeland, and all the more reason we should still be there.
Whether or not we are still in Iraq has nothing to do with the presence of terrorism in the world. It was there before we invaded Iraq, and it will be there after Iraq is a democracy and we are only a supportive presence.
And it IS a leftist talking point to make any connection between the existence of terrorism and our liberation of Iraq. Al Qaida was a presence there long before March of 2003.
I think you are correct ... get them more involved. This arcticle infers that, at any given time, they know EXACTLY where the insurgents are and how to reach out and touch them. They need to get a handle on who is backing the insurgents (Iran and Syria, but for different reasons) and decide once and for all what kind of lives they want for their children and grand children.
Here are the problems for the future of Iraq:
- Iran is a Shiite country and is busy sending agents to control the future government.
- Iraq has a Shiite majority
- Syria is ruled by the Sunnis and has no interest in seeing a Shiite dominated country as its next door neighbor
- The Kurds are stuck between the Turks, the Uzbeks, the Sunnis, and the Shiites.
- Turkey, lukewarm allies that they are, would like to eliminate the northern Kurds and, under those pretenses, annex the oil rich areas that the Kurds control.
- If we leave, we leave a power vacuum because Iraq has no military hardware with which to repel its neighbors.
On a more domestic level:
- If the country is unstable, nobody but the petro-chem industry will invest. What other industry wants to invest in an area where your HR assets are targets of kidnap/assassination and your infrastructure is a target of car bombs?
- If there are no other extenal investments outside of petro-chem industries inside of Iraq, then it matters one iota whether or not we build schools, give voting rights to women, etc. ... we'll have an educated, unemployed populace on our hands ... people who want a better life but need to blame someone for their plight.
One of the key differences between their fight for independence and ours is, although we had outside help, we had some homegrown leaders that put it all on the line to help sell the need for independence and we had the mass populace involved in fighting for independence ... in other words, they felt they wanted a better life for themselves and their kids, and were willing to fight for that.
So far, it seems that we've carried the ball for them and they are just waiting on the sidelines, unwilling to fight except in rare circumstances. Its time for them to get in the game, and not just when one of their "leaders" gets targeted (like in the article), but because its the right thing to do ... for them and for the future generations of Iraqis.
Bump! Very encouraging news.
Someone made reference to them running out of places to hide. Someone in a position of power.
It was Bill or Hillery Clinton or the like.
No....wait a minute....perhaps it was Dubya.
LoL!
And we staged the debacle of 9/11.
It's a liberal point of view all the way.....
Yep!
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