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'Christian' Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Venezuela's President Chavez
Vheadline.com ^ | 8/22/05 | staff

Posted on 08/22/2005 5:43:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase

hristian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club host Pat Robertson ... founder of the Christian Coalition of America has called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias.

In a direct transcript of his August 22 The 700 Club broadcast Robertson clearly says:

There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.

It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... this is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen.

We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly.

We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability.

We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hugochavez; patrobertson; venezuela; viacondios
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To: Monty Python
I know... my view on these kind of things is that people in a position to influence others should be very careful in what they say. Does Pat not think that our government has an eye of Chavez? He's a madman of course we do. And if Pat would like to write a letter to the Pres, he should. But as far as teaching others about Christ, this is not the first thing you want them to remember

Christian-hey you know God loved you so much that he sent his only son to die for you. If you believe in him and confess your sins..you will have eternal life with the one that breathe life into you and loves you more than anything...

Non Christian-Didn't I just hear on TV that a Christian issued a warning that we should assassinate a leader of another country


Believe me I believe in War. Like I've stated above..I believe in snuffing out evil. God's judgment is swift on those who don't. BUT....these things should be done and said by our government NOT by a man who is one minute trying to teach salvation and in another breath calling for the death of a leader.
301 posted on 08/23/2005 7:27:55 AM PDT by PaulaB (Waiting On My Blessed Hope)
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To: PaulaB

I agree!


302 posted on 08/23/2005 7:28:54 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: dmz
"When you ask a Yes/No question, as you did, what kind of answer do you expect?...

A positive declaration to an entirely speculative question dismissed as sheer conjecture is MUCH more amusing that balloons and lollipops."

The "positive declaration" was the presumption the Nazis would storm the Vatican and kill the Pope.

THAT, Sparky, IS "conjecture" -- not a "yes or no question."

Btw, I'll bet red balloons and lollipops are your very favorite.

303 posted on 08/23/2005 7:30:12 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Rebelbase

The man is 100% right.


304 posted on 08/23/2005 7:30:59 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: F16Fighter
IF the Pope had spoken up against Nazism, Hitler would have indeed found himself in a conundrum.

Do your research before uttering ignorance:

A Righteous Gentile

Pius XII publicly and privately warned of the dangers of Nazism. Throughout World War II, he spoke out on behalf of Europe's Jews. When Pius learned of the Nazi atrocities in Poland, he urged the bishops of Europe to do all they could to save the Jews and other victims of Nazi persecution. On January 19, 1940, at the Pope's instruction, Vatican radio and L'Osservatore Romano revealed to the world "the dreadful cruelties of uncivilized tyranny" that the Nazis were inflicting on Jewish and Catholic Poles. The following week, the Jewish Advocate of Boston reported the Vatican radio broadcast, praising its "outspoken denunciation of German atrocities in Nazi [occupied] Poland, declaring they affronted the moral conscience of mankind."

In his 1940 Easter homily, Pius XII condemned the Nazi bombardment of defenseless citizens, aged and sick people, and innocent children. On May 11, 1940, he publicly condemned the Nazi invasions of Belgium, Holland, and Luxemburg and lamented "a world poisoned by lies and disloyalty and wounded by excesses of violence." In June 1942, Pius spoke out against the mass deportation of Jews from Nazi-occupied France, further instructing his Papal Nuncio in Paris to protest to Marshal Henri Petain, Vichy France's Chief of State, against "the inhuman arrests and deportations of Jews from the French occupied zone to Silesia and parts of Russia."

The London Times of October 1, 1942, explicitly praises him for his condemnation of Nazism and his public support for the Jewish victims of Nazi terror. "A study of the words which Pope Pius XII has addressed since his accession," noted the Times, "leaves no room for doubt. He condemns the worship of force and its concrete manifestations in the suppression of national liberties and in the persecution of the Jewish race."

Pius XII's Christmas addresses of 1941 and 1942, broadcast over Vatican radio to millions throughout the world, also help to refute the fallacious claim that Pope Pius was "silent." Indeed, as The New York Times described Pius' 1941 Christmas address in its editorial the following day, it specifically applauded the Pope, as a "lonely" voice of public protest against Hitler: "The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas…In calling for a 'real new order' based on 'liberty, justice, and love'…the Pope put himself squarely against Hitlerism. Recognizing that there is no road open to agreement between belligerents 'whose reciprocal war aims and programs seem to be irreconcilable,' Pius XII left no doubt that the Nazi aims are also irreconcilable with his own conception of a Christian peace." The Pope's Christmas message of 1941, as reported by The New York Times and other newspapers, was understood at the time to be a clear condemnation of Nazi attacks on Europe's Jews.

So, too, was the Pope's Christmas message of the following year. Pope Pius XII's widely-discussed Christmas message of December 24, 1942, in which he expressed his passionate concern "for those hundreds of thousands who, without any fault of their own, sometimes only by reason of their nationality or race, are marked down for death or progressive extinction," was widely understood to be a very public denunciation of the Nazi extermination of the Jews. Indeed, the Nazis themselves interpreted the Pope's famous speech of Christmas 1942 as a clear condemnation of Nazism, and as a plea on behalf of Europe's Jews: "His [the Pope's] speech is one long attack on everything we stand for…he is clearly speaking on behalf of the Jews…he is virtually accusing the German people of injustice toward the Jews, and makes himself the mouthpiece of the Jewish war criminals."
305 posted on 08/23/2005 7:32:32 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Rebelbase

Your first link does not exist anymore. Your second is to mediamatters. I seems we have a lot of Soros fans as of late.


306 posted on 08/23/2005 7:32:37 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: R. Scott
"Pat does claim to be His [God's] representative."

Like an Apostle or Disciple or "Vicar of Christ"?

I don't think so.

307 posted on 08/23/2005 7:33:29 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Rebelbase

I wouldn't mind seeing the Pres of Venezuela get SARS, but calling for his assassination is ridiculous. We don't assassinate - we liberate. We should go there and liberate his ass. But from a religious perspective, Pat should remember to love the sinner and hate the sin, and stay out of politics. What kind of Man of God is he anyway?


308 posted on 08/23/2005 7:33:40 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: muawiyah
I don't recall there being anything in the rules that allows a Catholic to excommunicate himself ~ it takes an official action by someone in the priesthood authorized to do that.

Sure there is. It's called latae sententiae--as in automatic. Heresy incurrs such a sentence, as does procuring an abortion.
309 posted on 08/23/2005 7:36:40 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: All

"What kind of Man of God is he anyway?"

It looks like he was only issuing a fatwa?


310 posted on 08/23/2005 7:37:29 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: mudblood

Not comparing the two at all, just as an argument for arguments sake...What kind of a man of God was King David?


311 posted on 08/23/2005 7:38:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: muawiyah

Actually, excomminication is carried out by the
*congregation*.


313 posted on 08/23/2005 7:40:22 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: Bringbackthedraft
It looks like he was only issuing a fatwa?

Really. We hear fatwa's issued morning noon and night. The media couldn't care less about radical islam vowing to destroy western civilization and it's just a bleep on a screen. But, whoa...let a Christian make the same remark and it's time to tar, feather and crucify(not the Biblical sense) him.

315 posted on 08/23/2005 7:42:25 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Monty Python

But, he believed in God didn't he?


316 posted on 08/23/2005 7:43:28 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Monty Python
Would you agree to assassinate Bin Laden?
317 posted on 08/23/2005 7:46:02 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

"What kind of a man of God was King David?"

No idea, I'm not a Christian. But I've heard some things about Jesus, and I can't imagine him calling out for anyone's assassination. Sometimes it seems to me that if a Christian found a sentence in the Bible that read "Always eat red fruits on Tuesday, so sayeth the Lord" then they'd be eating apples on Tuesday, while overlooking the message of Jesus.


319 posted on 08/23/2005 7:47:28 AM PDT by mudblood
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