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'Christian' Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Venezuela's President Chavez
Vheadline.com ^ | 8/22/05 | staff

Posted on 08/22/2005 5:43:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase

hristian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club host Pat Robertson ... founder of the Christian Coalition of America has called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias.

In a direct transcript of his August 22 The 700 Club broadcast Robertson clearly says:

There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.

It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... this is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen.

We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly.

We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability.

We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hugochavez; patrobertson; venezuela; viacondios
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To: Lord_Baltar

It's all in fun. Don't take me too seriously.


401 posted on 08/23/2005 5:22:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: twigs
If a leader has gone bad, it's God's business how to deal with him. Not man's. Robertson is WAY off base here.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Kinda like ya'll have left judging Robertson to God, huh?

402 posted on 08/23/2005 5:38:14 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (veni vidi Visa - I came, I saw, I shopped!)
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To: wideawake
"The fact that almost 35% of Italians self-identified as Communists in that time period would suggest that at most 65% of Italians were Catholic."

Though Italian Communists, Socialists, Fascists -- nearly everyone remained Catholic.

403 posted on 08/23/2005 5:42:35 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: wagglebee
I don't see this as damaging to Christianity at all. Chavez is an enemy of Christ.

Christ died for his enemies.

404 posted on 08/23/2005 5:47:33 PM PDT by TigerTale ("I don't care. I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me.")
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To: Rebelbase

So, now are we all eager to export the policy of assassinating all elected leaders of other countries who threaten to interfere with the plans of one's own country? Goodbye rule of law....in fact, why limit it to other countries? Why not neighbors, or family members? Jungle laws, anyone? As Christians, don't forget Romans 13 and the power in Rome to which it refers.


405 posted on 08/23/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by merekraft
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To: sefarkas
Let's be sure all the nations of the world imitate us, and the Israelis (no trial necessary; don't mess with legal niceties; shoot on sight). Whoops, that's what we're complaining about re. the Palestinians and Al Qeada, isn't' it???? Thought we were different.
406 posted on 08/23/2005 6:46:53 PM PDT by merekraft
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To: Friend of thunder
If by his statement Robertson is losing souls to salvation, do you think that is not Christian?

Best argument I've heard so far.
I can't disagree with you on this point.

407 posted on 08/23/2005 7:09:43 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Conservative til I die
When God commands America to smite its enemies, I will lend your theory more credence.

According to your logic we cannot apply ANYTHING the Bible says unless it addresses each of us by name.

Let's just face the fact you oppose the Bible in general.

408 posted on 08/23/2005 7:29:10 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Lord_Baltar
How exactly do you SHOE HORN your Christian Principles into Assassination...

I already told you.
The Bible is full of commandments by God Himself toward His people to do away with their enemies.
Guess you don't think that's very nice..... but if we followed your rules Hitler would have controlled the world.

409 posted on 08/23/2005 7:32:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

Not their enemies...his enemies. And only at a specific time in history. As Jesus said, Love your enemies. While as a nation our leaders have the responsibility to defend our country, you cannot claim that our nation is under direct attack. By your logic, anyone who apparently threatens, or postures, can be killed. Using this logic, Pat Robertson could be a target. Can't you make a point without bringing up Hitler? What does it take to deserve assassination? Where do you draw the line? And couldn't it be said around the globe that the US poses a threat, given our proclivity to police the world. Justified or not, people are threatened by our presence. Would they then have the same right to assassinate our president?


410 posted on 08/23/2005 7:42:43 PM PDT by merekraft
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To: F16Fighter
Seems as though there is much knowledge, and "research," and MANY opinions and facts to consider...OR is it a conspiracy?

You know what's truly sad? Even before I pasted your link into my browser, I knew it was to John Cornwell's "Hitler's Pope." You do realize that this particular book has been thoroughly and comprehensively trashed by legitimate historians. The book is as much a fraud as the cover photo--which is supposed make the soldier saluting then Cardinal Pacelli look like a Nazi. In reality, the photo was taken in the late 1920s--during the Weimar Republic.

Again, you are speaking from ignorance. Here's one little tidbit you probably didn't read in Cornwell's slander of a dead Pontiff--the Chief Rabbi of Rome during WWII converted to Catholicism after the war. As his baptismal name, he took "Eugenio." Pius XII's name was Eugenio Pacelli.
411 posted on 08/23/2005 7:43:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Rebelbase
I must say it's been interesting reading this thread. According to my personal beliefs, it's perfectly okay to take life to save lives. All life is sacred, be it a butterfly, a deer or a human. To kill a deer to feed my family is part of the cycle of life. To kill a killer- whether a BTK or a bloodthirsty dictator- to protect innocent lives is an honorable task for a Warrior. But to kill a butterfly just to watch it die is evil.
But it seems to be a harder decision for Christians.
412 posted on 08/23/2005 8:49:37 PM PDT by Ostlandr (NeopaganNeocon)
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To: SteveMcKing
I do wish the CIA would do its job in general.

The CIA is essentially an arm of the DNC. They spend more time trying to figure out how to leak things than they do trying to figure out the intentions of our enemy. Like the State Department they are no longer working for our elected officials.

413 posted on 08/23/2005 8:53:09 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Rebelbase

http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp

About CITGO

The company is owned by PDV America, Inc., an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of  Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. , the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The domestic Enemies of the Republic get their gas at CITGO.


414 posted on 08/23/2005 8:56:09 PM PDT by yianni ("there was the tyranny of the lawyers and their charges."-Belloc,1936)
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To: F16Fighter
Though Italian Communists, Socialists, Fascists -- nearly everyone remained Catholic.

Incorrect.

You have made this assertion without a shred of evidence.

In point of fact, attendance at Mass in Italy dropped some 40% in Italy between 1880-1940. During this period, for the first time, millions of children were not even baptized.

Pope St. Pius X altered the discipline on the Eucharist intentionally in order to combat this phenomenon and he encountered mixed results.

415 posted on 08/24/2005 4:41:55 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Impeach the Boy
Churchill replied that you should pluck a weed before it ruins the garden

Unfortunately, Robertson does not possess Churchill's dexterity with language. His ham-fisted comments are just embarrassing.

416 posted on 08/24/2005 4:44:28 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ex-Texan
Do you mean "forgiving" or "forgetful"?

Also, bear in mind, Pat's theology and yours may well both represent narrow, sectarian views.

417 posted on 08/24/2005 5:37:15 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: TigerTale
Christ died for sinners. The word enemies is entirely too narrow.
418 posted on 08/24/2005 5:40:42 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: montag813

Churchill's comments were also thought "embarrassing" by the socialists in parliamant.


420 posted on 08/24/2005 6:06:28 AM PDT by JCEccles
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