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Texas, Connecticut Spared Base Closings
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 8/24/05 | Liz Sidoti

Posted on 08/24/2005 8:19:50 AM PDT by The_Victor

WASHINGTON - The commission weighing the Pentagon's plan to restructure hundreds of U.S. military bases on Wednesday spared an Army depot in Texas and a submarine base in Connecticut from being shut down.

However, as it began final voting Wednesday with lightning speed, the panel agreed with Pentagon proposals to close several other major bases elsewhere and approved most of the recommendations made by the Army and the Navy. Many were changes at relatively small facilities.

The nine-member panel chose to keep open the Red River Army Depot in Texas and Submarine Base New London in Connecticut, against the Pentagon's wishes.

The panel sided with the Pentagon in voting to close other major Army bases — Fort Gillem and Fort McPherson in Georgia, Fort Monroe in Virginia, Army Garrison Selfridge in Michigan and Fort Monmouth in New Jersey.

The panel also signed off on closing nearly 400 Army Reserve and National Guard facilities in dozens of states, creating instead new joint centers.

Most of the Army's proposal was approved in minutes and as a package before the commission moved on to the fate of Navy bases.

Commissioners had said changes to the Pentagon's proposal were likely before they send their final report next month to President Bush, who could make his own changes. Congress also will get the chance to approve a joint resolution rejecting the plan after Bush considers it. Lawmakers haven't done that in previous rounds.

Before voting started, Chairman Anthony Principi said reviewing the proposal to close or shrink hundreds of bases set a daunting and unprecedented challenge for commissioners.

"The commission went to extraordinary lengths to ensure the soundness, correctness and integrity of the base realignment and closure process and to fulfill our commitment to transparency, honesty and fairness for all," said Principi, a former Veterans Affairs secretary.

He said the task was especially difficult because Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's proposal included more than double the recommendations in the four previous rounds of base closings combined.

Opening at least three days of final deliberations on which bases to spare and which to scrap, Principi said the commission recognizes that closing bases is necessary to save money and transform the military to meet new challenges.

"At the same time, we know that the decisions we reach will have a profound impact on the communities hosting our military installations, and more importantly, on the people who bring those communities to life," he said.

To reject a recommendation, the commission had to find that the Pentagon substantially deviated from criteria that focuses mainly on the military value of each facility.

Previous commissions — in 1988, 1991, 1993 and 1995 — altered about 15 percent of what the Pentagon proposed as it sought to get rid of bases considered no longer needed. But analysts say the current environment — including the emphasis on homeland security since Sept. 11, 2001 — make it difficult to predict just what the commission will change.

"It's not about just trying to get rid of excess capacity. It's actually about trying to reorganize the forces for future challenges," said Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington Institute, a think tank in Arlington, Va.

On Tuesday, Rumsfeld was optimistic his plan would remain largely intact, predicting the commission would endorse "the overwhelming majority" of his recommendations.

The Pentagon proposed closing or consolidating a record 62 major military bases and 775 smaller installations to save $48.8 billion over 20 years, streamline the services and reposition the armed forces to face current threats. It's the first such effort in a decade to reconfigure domestic military bases and the most ambitious by far.

Announced in May, the proposal set off intense lobbying by communities fearful that the closures and downsizings would hurt their economies and by politicians worried they would be blamed by voters for job losses.

In the months since, commissioners reviewing the plan have voiced serious concerns about several parts of it, including the Pentagon's estimate of how much money will be saved.

The most contentious issues have been the Air Force's proposal to strip aircraft from about two dozen Air National Guard facilities and the Navy's efforts to scale back its forces in New England.

Commissioners fear those proposals could hamper homeland security, a contention the Pentagon rejects.

The Air Force's attempt to close Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, home to freshman Republican Sen. John Thune, has stirred the most political consternation. Thune argued during the 2004 campaign that he — not Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle — would be in a better position to save the facility.

The panel must send its final proposal to Bush by Sept. 8. The president can accept the report or order the commission to make changes.


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1 posted on 08/24/2005 8:19:51 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor

great news for CT!


2 posted on 08/24/2005 8:21:33 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle

Yes, it is.

That proposed closure didn't make alot of sense to me.


3 posted on 08/24/2005 8:24:29 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: The_Victor
Here we go again.
"Close the bases, shrink the military, we don't need a large military."

We went through this once after Vietnam and had to regrow the military when it became obvious that shrinking it was a bad idea.

4 posted on 08/24/2005 8:27:36 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: camle
great news for CT!

And RI as well. I think there are 3,000 Rhode Islander's employed there and around the area.

5 posted on 08/24/2005 8:30:27 AM PDT by JimWforBush (Alcohol - For the best times you'll never remember)
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To: Just another Joe
"Close the bases, shrink the military, we don't need a large military."

AFAIK, this is "Close the bases and reposition the current military." Sorry, but an unneccessary base remaining open amounts to a federal welfare program for the local population.

6 posted on 08/24/2005 8:44:44 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: camle

> great news for CT!

I'll say. They've been trying to close Groton for years...that place must have at least 9 lives.


7 posted on 08/24/2005 8:48:53 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: nutmeg

Ping!


8 posted on 08/24/2005 8:50:09 AM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: cloud8
They've been trying to close Groton for years...that place must have at least 9 lives.

A little hores-trading from Senator Lieberman and presto! No problems.

9 posted on 08/24/2005 8:54:03 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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To: The_Victor

Does anyone know what the status of Cannon Air Force Base and NAS Oceana???????


10 posted on 08/24/2005 8:54:38 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Just another Joe
I don't know that closing the bases is shrinking our military capacity. The number of folks and the missions would be more relevant. Places like Fort Bragg and Camp Pendleton can take on significantly more numbers, while closed bases like Miramar (not on the list) would be a tremendous asset to the community.

Weren't the bases and locations designed for World War II needs. Can't we do the job with fewer locations?

11 posted on 08/24/2005 8:59:30 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: camle
C-span has the regional meeting presentations. The Connecticut New London presentation was very interesting and is worth watching on a repeat.

I concurr that the Sub Base should not be closed as there are too many synergies and too much knowhow that would be permanently lost.
12 posted on 08/24/2005 9:10:00 AM PDT by dickmc
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To: Clemenza

Thanks for the ping, Clemenza. The news broke here around 11AM, but I was unable to get to the computer then. I'll ping my CT ping list now...


13 posted on 08/24/2005 9:18:53 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...
Connecticut ping!

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

14 posted on 08/24/2005 9:20:25 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: dickmc

< C-span has the regional meeting presentations. The Connecticut New London presentation was very interesting and is worth watching on a repeat. >

Have they announced any repeats of the showings?


15 posted on 08/24/2005 9:21:28 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most,, have the least for my views.)
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To: camle




As a retired Chief of the Boat (COB) on a fast attack submarine operating out of Groton, CT, I disagree with the findings of the BRAC Commission. I believe that the decision to keep the Submarine Base open was made strictly on political and economic grounds.

My reason for dissent is operational. A submarine is most vulnerable when it is transiting on the surface. It has no defense against an aerial attack. To defend against a surface attack, it would have to expend a Mark 48 torpedo, which is designed to sink aircraft carriers or other submarines. Because of the way the bottom of the ocean slopes gradually up, we were required to do a 13 hour surface transit to reach the “Dive Point”. This same transit in San Diego would take about 1 hour. This is an awful long time to be a target.

The other primary reason that we would not want our submarines home ported there is the fact that the base is located up the Thames River past the bridges crossing the river for Interstate 95. All an enemy would have to do to bottle up a large portion of our east coast submarine force for the duration of a war would be to drop one or both of the large bridge spans into the river.

I don’t believe the BRAC Commission has served our country well with this decision.


16 posted on 08/24/2005 10:17:30 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Retired COB

good analysis. thank you for the perspective.

how much of this was to save the career of Rep. Simmons is anybody's guess.


17 posted on 08/24/2005 10:24:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: The_Victor
This is great news for Conn & RI!

(file) The nuclear powered attack submarine USS Dallas(R) gets underway for a scheduled deployment from New London Submarine Base, Connecticut, April 2002. An independent commission voted to save the premier submarine base on the US east coast from closure(AFP/HO-DOD)

18 posted on 08/24/2005 10:25:34 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping. I have mixed emotions on this one. It's not the best choice for a sub base, as iterated by Retired COB above, but I know people who do alot of work at the subbase. The loss of jobs would suck.


19 posted on 08/24/2005 10:31:30 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: Retired COB

Good analysis Chief. When I was listening to the delegation from CT arguing to keep the base open, I concluded that the reasons were entirely political.


20 posted on 08/24/2005 10:35:17 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I can simply wet myself.)
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