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If you're in an Iranian courtroom, do they allow you to swear in on a Bible?
1 posted on 08/24/2005 4:15:37 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

If you do not want to swear on the Bible, make an AFFIRMATION instead of an OATH.

It's part of the law.

This is (should be) a non-issue.


56 posted on 08/24/2005 4:58:06 PM PDT by Shazolene
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Perhaps this is the first step to having Islamic law recognized in this "Christian" country. Beware!
60 posted on 08/24/2005 4:59:51 PM PDT by Isabelle
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A Moslem doesn't have to tell the truth to an infidel no matter what holy book he's asked to swear upon. He is only bound to tell the truth when accused and tried under Sharia law by an Islamic court.
63 posted on 08/24/2005 5:01:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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SHOULD THE QU'RAN BE IN THE COURTROOM?

Well, the judge has to bang the gavel down on SOMETHING...


65 posted on 08/24/2005 5:03:15 PM PDT by decal ("The Republic was not established by cowards, and cowards will not preserve it")
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"...SHOULD THE QU'RAN BE IN THE COURTROOM..."

I suppose that a court room would be OK, but I find that mine is a lot more useful in my outhouse.

66 posted on 08/24/2005 5:04:01 PM PDT by skimbell (Now in its 42nd year and still no Exit Strategy for the War on Poverty.)
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Many courtrooms have dropped the God portion of the oath, ending only with "so help you".


69 posted on 08/24/2005 5:08:41 PM PDT by Natural Law
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So far as I know, all courts permit people who do not accept Jewish/Christian Scripture to simply make an affirmation that they will tell the truth. This is a non-issue.


71 posted on 08/24/2005 5:11:32 PM PDT by livius
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In the restroom maybe?
74 posted on 08/24/2005 5:19:43 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: Libloather

It's amazing to me - reading the posts here on FR - whenever the issue of Muslims and the Koran come up - how many supposedly freedom-loving Americans don't really believe in the free exercise of religion. It's scary, really.

I suppose that's because we're in a war with Muslim extremists. But the people that we are trying to HELP in Iraq and Afghanistan are also mostly MUSLIM. They're not all the enemy.

As a matter of public policy: If someone can swear an oath with their hand on the Bible, they should be able to affirm that oath on whatever "holy book" they choose. The government is incompetent to make judgments about what's theologically valid and invalid. Seriously, do you want the government telling you that YOUR religious ideas are wrong?

Oaths today are a quaint relic of more superstitious times, a way to indicate the seriousness of the proceeding and to invoke the punishment of the gods on perjurers. I'm not sure they are much more than a solemn tradition these days. But, if putting your hand on a book isn't very likely to make you more truthful, it's probably not going to make you a bigger liar, either.

As a matter of theology: for Christians, no oath is necessary. Jesus said, "Again, you have heard that it was said to our ancestors, You must not break your oath, but you must keep your oaths to the Lord. But I tell you, don't take an oath at all .... But let your word 'yes' be 'yes,' and your 'no' be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one. (Matthew 5:33-34a, 37 HCSB)

Christians are supposed to be people of integrity whose word can be trusted. Putting my hand on the Bible can't increase my responsibility to be truthful in court. God already requires that of me.

Free exercise is good for everybody. I'm not afraid to let my beliefs compete in the market place of ideas. Certainly, many ACLU suits seek to limit the free exercise of religion. This isn't one of them. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and in this case the ACLU is right. (Americans United, as usual, is dead wrong. Don't get me started on Barry Lynn who told me in the early 1980s .... well, that's a story for another time).


83 posted on 08/24/2005 5:36:15 PM PDT by bin2baghdad
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The problem could be found in the text it self as the Q'uran gives the faithful express permission to lie to infidels. The sworn Muslim would only be bound if the judge and all jury members were also practicing Muslims.
READ THEIR BOOK; READ THEIR BOOK; READ THEIR B..........
89 posted on 08/24/2005 5:44:00 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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No, but its pretty handy in a outhouse.
94 posted on 08/24/2005 5:56:56 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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If you are in an Iranian courtroom, yer screwd.


102 posted on 08/24/2005 6:43:41 PM PDT by Thebaddog (How's yer dogs?)
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The only reason for swearing in is so you can be charged with perjury if you are found out to be lying.

The stuff about swearing in or this or that book is simply to take advantage of people's supersitions.


106 posted on 08/24/2005 6:53:13 PM PDT by Lessismore
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No. If they are not Christian, they make make a simply affirmation.


119 posted on 08/24/2005 9:16:30 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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I think they should allow people the choice of swearing on the Koran. Then we would know who is lying.


127 posted on 08/25/2005 2:04:50 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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These muslin banshees have managed to screw up the middle east and now are trying to impose their crapola on civilized countries. A suggestion - Go to Cuba and see if Fidel embraces these religious wackos.


134 posted on 08/25/2005 1:30:57 PM PDT by hgro (ews)
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