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Aruba Detains Brothers in Holloway Case (and a 4th subject)
The Guardian Unlimited ^ | Friday August 26, 2005 7:31 PM | AP

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:29:43 PM PDT by Smogger

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To: turbocat

Me. too! What did Tammy Bruce say???


21 posted on 08/26/2005 9:11:23 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Peach

Who is Tammy Bruce? I never heard of her, but then again, I live in the bush, in Alaska. Good news travels slllowwww. :) I'll try to find her book, "The Death of Right and Wrong". In the meantime, I'd just like to know WHO she is. Thanks, chena


22 posted on 08/26/2005 9:12:33 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: turbocat

I heard via freepmail that she mentioned something about a date rape drug being used on several girls. Probably the girls who have come forward. And something about the rapes being videotaped...which was also mentioned or speculated about on FNC tonight.


23 posted on 08/26/2005 9:12:48 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Chena

Tammy Bruce is a lesbian who is the former president of the Los Angeles chapter of NOW. As a leftist, she is given a certain cache in liberal circles, which is a good thing, because they listen to her somewhat about important issues.

She wrote a book called the Death of Right and Wrong that details by the left thinks the way they do (malignant narcissism) and how the radical gay agenda is destroying our schools.

She has worked with Phyllis Schaffley and Congress to try and correct some of this.

I don't have kids and was still so stunned at what I read that I've bought books for all my brothers and sisters so they can fully understand what is being taught their kids.

Tammy doesn't use a lot of rhetoric and backed her book up with facts and names of schools and names of specific teaching materials being used. She's a national treasure.


24 posted on 08/26/2005 9:17:56 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Yes, the plot thickens. Joran and several of his friends, the Kalpoes included, called themselves "The Pimp Boys."

Guess they weren't kidding.They had the drugs, the island is full of pretty young girls, and Kalpoe had the job at the internet cafe where he could develop and sell the pictures.

I still think the father helped them dispose of the body.


25 posted on 08/26/2005 9:19:27 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Chena

She lives in the bush too!


26 posted on 08/26/2005 9:19:29 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules ("Girl drowns as Ted Kennedy visits Nantucket")
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To: Palladin

I think the father helped too and I hadn't thought about the job at the internet cafe in terms of developing pictures. An interesting theory.


27 posted on 08/26/2005 9:22:38 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Thanks, Peach. I'm intrigued. I will be sure to try and find a copy of her book somewhere. I'm a new grandmother-in-training and along with worrying about our own sons, I worry about our granchild and the world he will be growing up in. :)


28 posted on 08/26/2005 9:42:17 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Seriously? Wow, I'm going to look her up on the internet and check out Amazon for her book. Bush-bunnies usually have alot in common. LOL I tell people I'm a "bush" bunny AND a "George BUSH bunny". I love the bush and I love our President too. :)


29 posted on 08/26/2005 9:43:58 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Peach

The old guy who is the senior editor of a newspaper on Aruba said the 4th person arrested was in the business of selling the pictures. Much of that is sold for distribution on the internet.


30 posted on 08/26/2005 9:44:35 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules; Peach

I found her website. I will look forward to learning more about Tammy Bruce. :)


31 posted on 08/26/2005 9:46:15 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: coconutt2000
Each time it was us guys who initiated the responsible behavior. Women just don't do it... I think they're afraid we won't like them if they insist.

You're a nice guy!

When my husband and I were dating, we volunteered to take a friend's two kids to Chuck E Cheese so that the parents could have an evening to themselves.

The mom went to school nights, so although we knew the husband pretty well, we hadn't met the mom. We went to pick those kids up and mom was just nervous as could be over it! So, I gave her my driver's license to hold for the evening and wrote a description of the car and license plate number.

32 posted on 08/26/2005 9:49:11 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Peach
I heard via freepmail that she mentioned something about a date rape drug being used on several girls. Probably the girls who have come forward. And something about the rapes being videotaped...which was also mentioned or speculated about on FNC tonight.

I've lost track of this story. Unless you can devote a lot of time to following it, it can be difficult to determine fact from speculation. I hope these things turn out to be true, but I've got to wonder why it's taken so long for the info to come out.

33 posted on 08/26/2005 9:51:13 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The old guy who is the senior editor of a newspaper on Aruba said the 4th person arrested was in the business of selling the pictures. Much of that is sold for distribution on the internet.

So, is the implication that these boys have been doing this for some time, and NO ONE else knew about it? Or has Aruba been hiding this information (or rumors that they had heard about these activities)?

34 posted on 08/26/2005 9:53:10 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Peach
I don't like the gay agenda, I don't like them being considered "married" or being able to adopt......

however, I work with some gay people and you find it hard NOT to like them.....the one I am thinking of is a great worker and easy to get along with and does not push her lifestyle on anyone......she is well liked .....by everyone.....

35 posted on 08/26/2005 9:58:36 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Dianna
It seems that this activity was well known and accepted as was the drugging of tourists in the nightclubs fir the sport of the locals. They routine was to wait until the night before the tourists were leaving to give them little time to realize what had happened and less time and inclination to complain to the authorities.

The was also some early reports of girls being kidnapped and sold into white slavery in the Caribbean and South America.
36 posted on 08/26/2005 10:21:59 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Smogger

These cops are beginning to look like the D.C. Police looking for Chandra Levy


37 posted on 08/27/2005 4:10:22 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Chena

You will not be sorry if you read Tammy's book; it truly was the most eye opening book I've ever read. And congratulations on your grandchild!


38 posted on 08/27/2005 4:25:59 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Amy Bradley disappeared March '98 from a cruise ship
same area around the same bar: Carlos & Charlies
Disappeared in early morning also. Possibly in a slavery brothel and seen by witnesses who accurately idenitified her tattoes, etc and said she even told them her name.

Maybe Natalie isn't dead but somewhere living in misery.
The witness who didn't come forward in court said he saw the accused young men coming and going from a club AFTER they had supposedly left her company. Were they delivering her to someone else. Is this what the Father meant when he said "No body No murder charge"?

Supposedly these brothels have drug traffickers behind them and maybe the accused would rather stonewall the authorities than deal with them.
(This is just one scenerio I've wondered about; Please comment anyone)


39 posted on 09/04/2005 2:10:33 AM PDT by aptinfo4cure7
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To: aptinfo4cure7
White slavery is an active business around the world, both to supply brothels and for the private use of powerful individuals. I suspected early on this was a possibility and that the boat disk jockey who was initially arrested was part of it. I am also of the opinion that this is well known on the island but not discussed publicly.
40 posted on 09/04/2005 11:33:56 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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