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To: LexBaird
I was referring to an example of dictatorship such as existed under Saddam: hard core Stalinism.

"hard core Stalinism"? You live in a dream world. Do you really believe that under Stalin's regime half of population could be armed, all religions were free to flourish and numerous private businesses were functioning?

After defeating Nazism, we quickly distanced ourselves form our Soviet ally and pushed for Constitutional democratic governments in those areas of Europe and Asia we controlled. Although it took decades, we were successful and stable, productive nations arose from the effort.

Democratic governments in Western Europe were home-grown and USA did not control Western Europe (UK, France are good examples). The exception was Germany where the denazification had to take place.

But US control was much stronger in Central America where plenty of dictatorships had friends in Washington.

Or, we can attempt to change the dynamic, and free the people of the Mesopotamian Basin from oppression and let them govern themselves.

Could the stable American democracy/republic be established by the occupying foreign (of differen language and culture like Spain or Turkey) power in XVIII century?

107 posted on 08/31/2005 7:20:41 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! ")
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To: A. Pole
Do you really believe that under Stalin's regime half of population could be armed, all religions were free to flourish and numerous private businesses were functioning?

It is quite well established that Saddam Hussein admired and modeled himself and his regime after Stalin. Even the NYT acknowledges it. Try a websearch with "Saddam Stalin" as the terms. Saddam copied Stalin's methods for establishing absolute dictatorship. This doesn't mean he used that power to establish communism.

and USA did not control Western Europe (UK, France are good examples). The exception was Germany where the denazification had to take place.

As I said, "those areas of Europe and Asia we controlled".

But US control was much stronger in Central America where plenty of dictatorships had friends in Washington.

What's your point? That America employed realpolitik? Sure it did, and in most of the places where we supported "our bastard", it turned out to be a grave error. So why do you advocate the same failed policy for the Middle East?

Could the stable American democracy/republic be established by the occupying foreign (of differen language and culture like Spain or Turkey) power in XVIII century?

This is 2005, not 1705. The world has had over two hundred years to see the benefit of Democracy over Kings, regardless of the language they speak. If a totally foreign culture like Japan's can adopt it successfully, anyone can.

110 posted on 08/31/2005 7:46:10 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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