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New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes
AP ^ | 9/1/05

Posted on 09/01/2005 5:57:30 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon

New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes

Friday September 2, 2005 12:46 AM

AP Photo MSDP112

By ALLEN G. BREED

Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday, as corpses lay abandoned in street medians, fights and fires broke out and storm survivors battled for seats on the buses that would carry them away from the chaos. The tired and hungry seethed, saying they had been forsaken. ``This is a desperate SOS,'' mayor Ray Nagin said.

``We are out here like pure animals,'' the Rev. Issac Clark said outside the New Orleans Convention Center, where he and other evacuees had been waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead.

``I'm not sure I'm going to get out of here alive,'' said tourist Larry Mitzel of Saskatoon, Canada, who handed a reporter his business card in case he goes missing. ``I'm scared of riots. I'm scared of the locals. We might get caught in the crossfire.''

Four days after Hurricane Katrina roared in with a devastating blow that inflicted potentially thousands of deaths, the frustration, fear and anger mounted, despite the promise of 1,400 National Guardsmen a day to stop the looting, plans for a $10 billion recovery bill in Congress and a government relief effort President Bush called the biggest in U.S. history.

New Orleans' top emergency management official called that effort a ``national disgrace'' and questioned when reinforcements would actually reach the increasingly lawless city.

About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans convention center grew increasingly hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead. Police Chief Eddie Compass said he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly driven back by an angry mob.

``We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten,'' Compass said. ``Tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.''

A military helicopter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away.

In hopes of defusing the situation at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the refugees permission to march across a bridge to the city's unflooded west bank for whatever relief they could find. But the bedlam made that difficult.

``This is a desperate SOS,'' Nagin said in a statement. ``Right now we are out of resources at the convention center and don't anticipate enough buses.''

At least seven bodies were scattered outside the convention center, a makeshift staging area for those rescued from rooftops, attics and highways. The sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement.

An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

``I don't treat my dog like that,'' 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair.

``You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people,'' he added. ``You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here.''

The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

``They've been teasing us with buses for four days,'' Edwards said. ``They're telling us they're going to come get us one day, and then they don't show up.''

Every so often, an armored state police vehicle cruised in front of the convention center with four or five officers in riot gear with automatic weapons. But there was no sign of help from the National Guard.

At one point the crowd began to chant ``We want help! We want help!'' Later, a woman, screaming, went on the front steps of the convention center and led the crowd in reciting the 23rd Psalm, ``The Lord is my shepherd ...''

``We are out here like pure animals,'' the Issac Clark said.

``We've got people dying out here - two babies have died, a woman died, a man died,'' said Helen Cheek. ``We haven't had no food, we haven't had no water, we haven't had nothing. They just brought us here and dropped us.''

Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Mich., said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, ``'Go to hell - it's every man for himself.'''

``This is just insanity,'' she said. ``We have no food, no water ... all these trucks and buses go by and they do nothing but wave.''

At the hot and stinking Superdome, where 30,000 were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, fistfights and fires erupted amid a seething sea of tense, suffering people who waited in a lines that stretched a half-mile to board yellow school buses.

After a traffic jam kept buses from arriving for nearly four hours, a near-riot broke out in the scramble to get on the buses that finally did show up, with a group of refugees breaking through a line of heavily armed National Guardsmen.

One military policeman was shot in the leg as he and a man scuffled for the MP's rifle, police Capt. Ernie Demmo said. The man was arrested.

Some of those among the mostly poor crowd had been in the dome for four days without air conditioning, working toilets or a place to bathe. An ambulance service airlifting the sick and injured out of the Superdome suspended flights as too dangerous after it was reported that a bullet was fired at a military helicopter.

``If they're just taking us anywhere, just anywhere, I say praise God,'' said refugee John Phillip. ``Nothing could be worse than what we've been through.''

By Thursday evening, 11 hours after the military began evacuating the Superdome, the arena held 10,000 more people than it did at dawn. National Guard Capt. John Pollard said evacuees from around the city poured into the Superdome and swelled the crowd to about 30,000 because they believed the arena was the best place to get a ride out of town.

As he watched a line snaking for blocks through ankle-deep waters, New Orleans' emergency operations chief Terry Ebbert blamed the inadequate response on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

``This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy,'' he said. He added: ``We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans.''

FEMA officials said some operations had to be suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out.

A day after Nagin took 1,500 police officers off search-and-rescue duty to try to restore order in the streets, there were continued reports of looting, shootings, gunfire and carjackings - and not all the crimes were driven by greed.

When some hospitals try to airlift patients, Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan said, ``there are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'''

Outside a looted Rite-Aid drugstore, some people were anxious to show they needed what they were taking. A gray-haired man who would not give his name pulled up his T-shirt to show a surgery scar and explained that he needs pads for incontinence.

``I'm a Christian. I feel bad going in there,'' he said.

Earl Baker carried toothpaste, toothbrushes and deodorant. ``Look, I'm only getting necessities,'' he said. ``All of this is personal hygiene. I ain't getting nothing to get drunk or high with.''

While floodwaters in the city appeared to stabilize, efforts continued to plug three breaches that had opened up in the levee system that protects this below-sea-level city.

Helicopters dropped sandbags into the breach and pilings were being pounded into the mouth of the canal Thursday to close its connection to Lake Pontchartrain, state Transportation Secretary Johnny Bradberry said. He said contractors had completed building a rock road to let heavy equipment roll to the area by midnight.

The next step called for using about 250 concrete road barriers to seal the gap.

In Washington, the White House said Bush will tour the devastated Gulf Coast region on Friday and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign for victims.

The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.

``I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this - whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud,'' Bush said. ``And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together.''

Donald Dudley, a 55-year-old New Orleans seafood merchant, complained that when he and other hungry refugees broke into the kitchen of the convention center and tried to prepare food, the National Guard chased them away.

``They pulled guns and told us we had to leave that kitchen or they would blow our damn brains out,'' he said. ``We don't want their help. Give us some vehicles and we'll get ourselves out of here!''

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
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1 posted on 09/01/2005 5:57:30 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.


2 posted on 09/01/2005 5:57:46 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

Well, this account tops everything. All that's missing are reports of ravenous wolves chewing on corpses.


3 posted on 09/01/2005 6:00:45 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

And what would it be like if a WMD was used?


4 posted on 09/01/2005 6:00:48 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

Anybody see the movie "Time of the Wolf" - almost prophetic...


5 posted on 09/01/2005 6:03:13 PM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: hershey

This reminds me of that movie "Escape from New York."


6 posted on 09/01/2005 6:03:22 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenance (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

Just heard a live report on Los Angeles ABC 7, that some rescues have had to be stopped because the survivors are killing each other. The death of a city state.


7 posted on 09/01/2005 6:04:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

"Friday September 2, 2005 12:46 AM"

Huh? Dispatch from a time traveler? It's a little after 9, September 1st, on the east coast.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 6:05:02 PM PDT by Ruddles
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Outside a looted Rite-Aid drugstore, some people were anxious to show they needed what they were taking. A gray-haired man who would not give his name pulled up his T-shirt to show a surgery scar and explained that he needs pads for incontinence. ``I'm a Christian. I feel bad going in there,'' he said. Earl Baker carried toothpaste, toothbrushes and deodorant. ``Look, I'm only getting necessities,'' he said. ``All of this is personal hygiene. I ain't getting nothing to get drunk or high with.''

No one cares about that. Perfectly understandable. It is the people carting off Nike Sneakers, TV sets, kegs of beer, etc., while wearing a s$*%-eating grin, that gets my craw...

9 posted on 09/01/2005 6:05:19 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
New Orleans descended into anarchy on Thursday

Are you nuts???? Anarchy was in full force on Tuesday, where have you been pal? AND from what I'm hearing it's always been this way only on a different level, they have stooped so low now I don't know if they will be able to pull themselves up.

11 posted on 09/01/2005 6:05:40 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Two bits really caught my attention:

About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans convention center grew increasingly hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead. Police Chief Eddie Compass said he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly driven back by an angry mob.

... and ...

As he watched a line snaking for blocks through ankle-deep waters, New Orleans' emergency operations chief Terry Ebbert blamed the inadequate response on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

``This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy,'' he said. He added: ``We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans.''

12 posted on 09/01/2005 6:06:04 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

13 posted on 09/01/2005 6:06:14 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The more I find out about looters, the more I like my firearms.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
tourist Larry Mitzel of Saskatoon, Canada, who handed a reporter his business card in case he goes missing. ``I'm scared of riots. I'm scared of the locals.

This should be NO's chamber of tourism's new logo : "Come to NO where we'll rob you, rape you and have you worry for your life and when it's all done and over, we'll just blame the government".

14 posted on 09/01/2005 6:06:19 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: garbanzo

Has anyone read the Out of the Ashes series of books by William W. Johnstone? He knew this would happen after a disaster.


15 posted on 09/01/2005 6:07:00 PM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel in HSV, AL)
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To: rockabyebaby

What is left in NO reminds me of what I read about Haiti, past and present.


16 posted on 09/01/2005 6:07:49 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: snowsislander

More on that angry mob at the convention center from the NY Times:

The police superintendent, Eddie Compass, estimated that perhaps 100 armed people were inside the convention center and that he was considering a plan to restore order there with a force of perhaps 500 police officers and national guardsmen.

Mr. Compass said that some stranded tourists who had sought shelter at the convention center instead found trouble. "The tourists are walking around there and as soon as these individuals see them, they're being preyed upon," he said.


17 posted on 09/01/2005 6:08:00 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
New Orleans Meets "Blade Runner."

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
18 posted on 09/01/2005 6:08:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: hershey

Well, there are gators and really big snakes.


19 posted on 09/01/2005 6:09:19 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: hershey

Who needs wolves? They have alligators.


20 posted on 09/01/2005 6:10:23 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

New Orleans is under a whammy. Don't rebuild at this below sea level location on hurricane alley.


21 posted on 09/01/2005 6:10:56 PM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry


Yes! Shades of Haiti.

It's sad and pathetic to watch these people in action, kinda like a car wreck, you want to look away but you just can't because it's just so,,,,so,,,,well you know.


22 posted on 09/01/2005 6:11:08 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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problem is New Orleans was already predisposed to this.

With a sky high drooge style crime rate why is anyone surprised?

Rural Mississippi is ravaged south of the line from Vicksburg to Meridian and yet we only hear about some looting in Hattiesburg and the Coast from the usual thuggies.

It's the culture baby.


23 posted on 09/01/2005 6:11:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

And the world is watching....


24 posted on 09/01/2005 6:11:46 PM PDT by traumer
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To: hershey
All that's missing are reports of ravenous wolves chewing on corpses.

No wolves in NO, but there are gators....

25 posted on 09/01/2005 6:12:32 PM PDT by Ronzo
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

No fear. Jesse Jackson just showed up. Order will be restored.

CNN has him on right now


26 posted on 09/01/2005 6:12:36 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
As he watched a line snaking for blocks through ankle-deep waters, New Orleans' emergency operations chief Terry Ebbert blamed the inadequate response on the Federal Emergency Management Agency. ``This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy,'' he said. He added: ``We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans.''

What an f'in idiot. This clown should be held civilly and/or criminally responsible for his (in)action. Guess he didn't realize this might be more than a patronage job, eh?

27 posted on 09/01/2005 6:12:40 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: hershey

What would top everything would be cannibalism.


28 posted on 09/01/2005 6:13:57 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: Years_o_Lurkin

Quite right. True Zero Tolerance would mean Shoot On Sight.


29 posted on 09/01/2005 6:16:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon



RAPES ??????????????????????????? After watching all of the LOOTING on prime time, I think everyday should be "FAT" Tuesday in the big EASY!!!!!!!


30 posted on 09/01/2005 6:17:25 PM PDT by FAHRENHEIT 4 MORE YEARS
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes

D@mn Bush and Fed's....before this disaster New Orleans was such a fun, clean, crime-free city.....just like Detroit.(/sarcasm)

The MSM are losing it.

31 posted on 09/01/2005 6:17:50 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
``This is a desperate SOS,'' Nagin said

Anyone with a clue as to Nagin what is saying?

32 posted on 09/01/2005 6:18:38 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: traumer
And the world is watching....

And the terrorists are taking notes!

33 posted on 09/01/2005 6:18:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: Popman

Organize the refugees! Demand meeting with BOOOSH!


34 posted on 09/01/2005 6:19:00 PM PDT by Ruddles (o])
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To: Popman

Will he denounce these black thugs?

He did once before sort of...anecdotally....and has had to live it down ever since.


36 posted on 09/01/2005 6:19:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: RckyRaCoCo


You got it. America out of IRAQ, and the New Orleans Police Department out of New Orleans.............um err oh wait a minute, that already happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 09/01/2005 6:21:17 PM PDT by FAHRENHEIT 4 MORE YEARS
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To: RckyRaCoCo


You got it. America out of IRAQ, and the New Orleans Police Department out of New Orleans.............um err oh wait a minute, that already happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


38 posted on 09/01/2005 6:21:23 PM PDT by FAHRENHEIT 4 MORE YEARS
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To: Ruddles
Jesse just got done taking Sid Buthmenthal talking points, point by point to Larry king
39 posted on 09/01/2005 6:21:42 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: aft_lizard

We could use the vaunted Gongo tribe actually.

They could come in and annihilate the looters and drooges

...and then eat them...

it would be all neat and sanitary


problem is....how to stop them once their appetite is whetted..lol


40 posted on 09/01/2005 6:23:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: wardaddy
Jesse basically took Sid Buthmental essay point by point. Bush is at fault. Blah, blah, blah.

Larry asked him about the disorder and he said it was OVERBLOWN by the MSM

41 posted on 09/01/2005 6:23:57 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

lol...why are some surprised


42 posted on 09/01/2005 6:24:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: FAHRENHEIT 4 MORE YEARS
Looks like the Gov./Mayor "planned for the war, but not for the peace".

(Hmmmm, didn't I hear that from some guy with a long face???)

43 posted on 09/01/2005 6:25:08 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: RobRoy

How about the Do Long bridge scene in 'Apolcalypse Now'?


44 posted on 09/01/2005 6:25:24 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Mich., said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, ``'Go to hell - it's every man for himself.'''

This states the true nature of things more than a thousand articles.

The citizens of NOLA need to take their government and that of their state to task for not having ANY kind of contingency plans in place. After Camille, what? 30 years ago, there was a DAMNED good chance that this would happen but their govt's chose to close their eyes to it.

When this is all over, I want NOLA BILLED for all of this cleanup costs. Screw em. They caused it, they can pay to clean it up. I don't want my tax dollars spent to support barbaric savages!

This city needs to be CRUSHED and started all over again.

45 posted on 09/01/2005 6:26:11 PM PDT by America's Resolve (I've just become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: jimbo123
Mr. Compass said that some stranded tourists who had sought shelter at the convention center instead found trouble. "The tourists are walking around there and as soon as these individuals see them, they're being preyed upon," he said.

IOW, the tourist women are being gang raped and the men beaten or killed. They both get to leave a tip ...

The NG should go in with fixed bayonets.

46 posted on 09/01/2005 6:27:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: ovrtaxt
"Lord of the Flies" had leaders, good and bad.

There are no leaders in New Orleans, only predators and prey.

47 posted on 09/01/2005 6:27:48 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: Ruddles
Organize the refugees! Demand meeting with BOOOSH!

It's BOOOOSH and the JOOOOOSss fault!

48 posted on 09/01/2005 6:28:00 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: Ruddles

I'm sorry, but I thought after 9/11 we were going to fix the problem, and create an office of Homeland security to come in in case of a WMD attack on a major US city. Well, look at New Orleans and Mississippi, that's pretty much what would happen. And.....we've worked 4 years for this?

You'll have to excuse me, we knew since Friday that it was a Cat 5 storm, even if there are less National Guard troops, you can pull them from other states if needed.

The ball has been dropped, and needs to be picked up again.


49 posted on 09/01/2005 6:28:06 PM PDT by FerkFick
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

I'm sorry, and I am NOT a liberal, but I am HUGELY DISSAPOINTED in the federal government, FEMA and the La/NO government in this situation. We can topple a government in a matter of days, but we can't get people out of a freaking city??? I keep seeing and reading people saying, "We are coming, it takes time", blah blah blah. Days are going by and only a HANDFUL of buses are taking these people out of here for God's sake.

These conditions are horrible. People are dying waiting for help. BABIES ARE STARVING FOR GOD'S SAKE. This just pisses me off and it pisses me off how the people on this board want to say crap like "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder". What a thoughtful post. Blaming liberalism is as assinine as blaming Bush for Global Warming.

Disgusted with this forum the last few days.


50 posted on 09/01/2005 6:28:08 PM PDT by sandbar
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