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Nagin's Failure
Bill Hobbs ^ | September 2, 2005 | Bill Hobbs

Posted on 09/02/2005 8:01:12 PM PDT by george76

Edited on 09/02/2005 8:06:13 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: grizzly84
I blame Blanco more than Nagin, Nagin met with Bush today and praised him, Nagin might be a boob but he seems to at least care and be involved to some degree.

You have got to be kidding.

Nagin has been viciously trashing GWB for the past couple of days. Now he 'makes nice' and he's all of a sudden not so bad. BTW, he's been out of town, 'directing' things from a safe place rather than being in the city. I do think it was nice of him to show up for the photo-op though.

101 posted on 09/02/2005 8:53:45 PM PDT by Bob
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To: george76

Nagin has shown, through all of this, just how incompetent he is. At a time when he could have stood up and been a strong figure, he has chosen to be a limp-wristed, ineffective looser.


102 posted on 09/02/2005 8:54:37 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: Roccus

"Nagin had a plan for evacuation. Here it is on the NOLA website:... "

I just went through Nagin's entire drill and can safely say that any 5th grade student in our public school system (Fort Bend I.S.D., TEAXS) could have easily come up with a more viable plan, that would have made one hell of alot more sense. Then again, our community is a solidly REPUBLICAN community, where people generally have a high degree of self reliance.


103 posted on 09/02/2005 8:56:00 PM PDT by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: al baby

"maybe he felt them too dangerous no seat belts"

He lets the children of New Orleans ride them every day to school. No, he just wasn't thinking, and now he wants to blame someone else for his failure to do his stinking job.


104 posted on 09/02/2005 8:56:40 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: ErnBatavia; pookie18

Thank you, "staring" fixed...
Kids let this be a lesson to you, pay attention in English Class.
105 posted on 09/02/2005 8:57:50 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Old Student

Whatever happens, he is a hero. Laws are there to preserve order. When that order is collapsing, and someone takes liberties in the name of saving lives, well, I just cannot see anyone prosecutor pressing a case against him. Still, I wouldn't bet the farm that that won't happen.


106 posted on 09/02/2005 8:58:25 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Roccus

In urban areas, a lot of people use public transportation. Many of the poor did not have cars and did not have money to stay anywhere if they left.


107 posted on 09/02/2005 8:58:48 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: doug from upland

Don't forget that Nagin, after evacuating his family on Fri. waited until Sun. to order the evacuation. Could the revenue that the city would make on Sat night have had any impact on this delay? Inquring minds want to know.


108 posted on 09/02/2005 8:59:56 PM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: fhayek

"Whatever happens, he is a hero. Laws are there to preserve order. When that order is collapsing, and someone takes liberties in the name of saving lives, well, I just cannot see anyone prosecutor pressing a case against him. Still, I wouldn't bet the farm that that won't happen."

I will bet that if someone starts something, a whole bunch of people, starting with that 80 people he got out of town, will jump to his defense, and make them rethink it. I'll scrape up some spare cash for his legal defense, myself, if needed. Not to mention calling the President and the Governor, and the Mayor, myself, and ripping the latter two a new one, verbally, at least.


109 posted on 09/02/2005 9:03:36 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: george76

Seems Nagin knew or was told that it would take a few days for federal supplies to get to NO. He warned folks to bring enough supplies to last several days. So not only did he cost the evacuation effort two days, he knew help wasn't coming right away.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/katrina.neworleans/index.html

Nagin said the city's shelters should be used as a last resort and said that people who use them should bring enough food, water and supplies to last for several days. He said that the Superdome, the city's main shelter, "is not going to be a very comfortable place at some point in time."

"The shelters will end up probably without electricity or with minimum electricity from generators in the end," Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said. "There may be intense flooding that will be not in our control which would be ultimately the most dangerous situation that many of our people could face."


110 posted on 09/02/2005 9:04:18 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: doug from upland

Lived in NYC for more than 55yrs so I'm well aquainted with mass transport. Ever try to get a parking spot in Harlem, Brownsville, Washington Hts. et? And then there's that traffic jam at the Wal-Mart that still has me puzzled. Were there poor that didn't have vehicles? Of course. But the videos we saw after the storm and before the flood prove that many did.


111 posted on 09/02/2005 9:06:31 PM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: pure_capitalist

Imagine what FReepers would do with that image if it were Sh$%head Clinton. It would be hilarious.

Pandering politicians of all stripes make for serious entertainment.

So, let's caption it. Here's mine:

"Ok, Magic 8-Ball, what do I do now?"

112 posted on 09/02/2005 9:13:00 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: george76
Nagin's a boob, no doubt, but how many of "city's poorest residence" who had no transportation are there, really? What percentage of those left behind had no transportation and what percentage chose to stay behind. I'd like to see some proof that a majority of these people couldn't get out.
113 posted on 09/02/2005 9:17:48 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: Roccus
Don't forget that Nagin, after evacuating his family on Fri. waited until Sun. to order the evacuation. Could the revenue that the city would make on Sat night have had any impact on this delay?

Interesting angle.

114 posted on 09/02/2005 9:18:25 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
A poll before said that only 34% would evacuate, if told to. Those who did not cooperate have exacerbated the rescue. The mandatory evacuation was not enforced with the conviction and urgency that showed understanding of how difficult it would be to get people out, if there was standing water.

If the mayor flubs on his level, it hampers those higher up. Neither the Governor nor the president has a fleet of buses immediately at his disposal. The idea that people couldn't leave because they had no transportation is not generally true. Those people manage to get around, normally. But, the lack of designated shelters for them to go to is shocking as is the lack of services at those shelters. Ours are manned by Red Cross volunteers and none of them are on welfare. Everyone had their hands out for a hand out, thinking the government could and should take care of them, but government workers all punched the clock and went home to take care of their own families.

115 posted on 09/02/2005 9:31:39 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: george76

bttt


116 posted on 09/02/2005 9:32:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jimboster

"No. This is not an AP story."



Yes it is:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015


117 posted on 09/02/2005 9:36:02 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("Remember, as far as anyone knows, we're a nice normal family." - Homer Simpson)
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To: george76
Mayor's Son Busted At Bloomies November 28, 2002 -- The teenage son of New Orleans' crime-busting mayor has been arrested in an elaborate credit-card scam at Bloomingdale's.

Cops say Jeremy Nagin, 18, and a pal tried to make off with $800 in clothing and a $500 cell phone by using an altered credit card.

[snip] Authorities say Jeremy Nagin and Nantambu began their scam by stealing a credit card and using a decoding device to decipher its confidential data.

Then, they allegedly used a computer program to graft those numbers onto another credit card, which was used in the Bloomie's theft and in booking a room at the Courtyard by Marriott.

The two were charged with grand larceny, criminal impersonation, criminal possession of stolen property and forgery.

[snip]" The New Orleans mayor, who is married with three kids, was previously vice president and general manager of Cox Communications. He was responsible for Cox launching the first 24-hour television news service in the United States with CBS affiliate WWL, and is also a principal owner of the professional ice hockey franchise in New Orleans.

118 posted on 09/02/2005 9:37:26 PM PDT by syriacus (You can't fool Mother Nature. Why didn't New Orleans codes require lifeboats for each residence?)
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To: Roccus
Could the revenue that the city would make on Sat night have had any impact on this delay?

Maybe Nagin was hoping to have extra time for his workers to destroy some sort of evidence.

119 posted on 09/02/2005 9:45:07 PM PDT by syriacus (You can't fool Mother Nature. Why didn't New Orleans codes require lifeboats for each residence?)
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To: george76
I honestly can't blame Nagil when we've got 20/20 hindsight.

Yes, it would have been brilliant to have the school buses above sea level Sunday afternoon.

But, it wasn't stupidity not to.

120 posted on 09/02/2005 9:48:31 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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