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Katrina Lays Bare US Refinery Crisis
AFP ^ | 9/1/05 | Christophe Vogt

Posted on 09/02/2005 9:06:27 PM PDT by Brett66

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To: Brett66

Slow down and carpool where possible. My Honda is getting almost 40 MPG at 60 MPH while Houston drivers continue to pass me at 80 MPH. Apparently, they have not figured this out yet. We can easily cut gasoline usage by 10% just through conservation.


21 posted on 09/03/2005 6:45:57 AM PDT by darth
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gas prices and supply have us rethinking our driving habits but we never drove much anyway. My wife's car goes about 6,000 miles a year and my pickup about 8,000 miles. Octane 87 was $3.30 yesterday and premium was $3.50. Diesel is about $3.65.I read yesterday that prices were up in Seattle even though their crude comes from Alaska???

Our summer temps here in Eureka average 65 for highs and 55 lows and it is always chilly because of the humidity. We sleep under a electric blanket almost every night...

22 posted on 09/03/2005 7:15:26 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: SierraWasp

Don't forget all the executive orders bill clinton signed to give the environmental NGOs the legal standing to sue the government and private landowners if they try to build power plants and refineries. Especially the environmental justice EO. They ALL need to be revoked by Congress ASAP.


23 posted on 09/03/2005 7:23:01 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Why can't President Bush just revoke those executive orders?


24 posted on 09/03/2005 7:51:26 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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I think only Congress or the courts can revoke them... but since it doesn't happen very often, I'm not quite sure of the exact process.


25 posted on 09/03/2005 8:40:39 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Everytime one of these increases in Gas Prices happen, I have to tell my boss, my Trophy Wife, that we are not going out in two vehicles when we can do the errands and shopping in one vehicle, hers because it gets the best mileage. So we plan our trips.

A couple of fishing friends and I are going in one vehicle instead of two or three. Before we drive any distance, tides, river flows, weather and fishing reports are checked and validated.

One of my friends and I swapped boat motors in late July and August. We took off my bigger motor and stored it and put his smaller motor on my boat. It worked fine for our local lake. We used my bigger Electric Salt Water Trolling motor instead of the gas motor when possible. We just recharged the battery after each use. We even used the smaller motor to go on our local river. We allowed a little more time to get to the fishing areas, went upstream on high tide and returned to the dock with the outgoing tide. Again we used my electric motor once we were in the fishing area and to go to close areas. I used my electric motor to dock and then drive the boat on the trailer.

We still have half of a tank on a 3.5 gallon tank after several lake and river trips.

Next week, I will be talking to a few other striper fishers, so we can use our cell phones while fishing. Instead of random going to sites, we will go to different sites and let the others know by cell phone if anything is happening.

Last but not least some of us forcing some fly and tackle shops to mail us products ordered by phone via the internet. One friend in another city asked the owner to start mailing orders instead having to drive to the shop. The owner said he couldn't afford to do that. My friend ordered over $100 from a fly shop in Oregon. He got free UPS shipping and the order in a couple days. He then mailed a copy of the order to the local fly shop. That local is now taking phone orders and shipping any order free or at cost depending on the order amount.


26 posted on 09/03/2005 9:00:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: tubebender

I've cut back my driving , filled up the other day with 87 octane for 2.73 gal and felt I had done well.


27 posted on 09/03/2005 9:30:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; BOBTHENAILER
But... But... But... GRAMPA!!! Where's your OUTRAGE??? I was expecting a RANT, not a "flex your power" socialist engineering meltdown!!!

I think you need counseling to revive your great American "rugged individualist" free spirit and shed this "we're all in the same sinking boat" Nixon/Ford/Carter Malaise!!!

Snap out of it, man!!! Git a grip!!! Expend that energy!!! Live a little!!! We just had a war for oil, remember?(snicker)

28 posted on 09/03/2005 9:35:23 AM PDT by SierraWasp (My Governor has morphed into the "FLINCHINATOR!!!")
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Jimmie Carter told those in the East to convert from heating oil 30 years ago. Unlike gasoline for engines, there are better ways to heat homes.


29 posted on 09/03/2005 4:36:41 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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I hope so.
Preferably a source that is cheap.


30 posted on 09/04/2005 2:18:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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