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Police and Owners Begin to Challenge Looters (NY Times reports on gun used in self defense)
THE NEW YORK TIMES ^ | September 1, 2005 | FELICITY BARRINGER and JERE LONGMAN

Posted on 09/03/2005 5:59:03 AM PDT by grundle

John Carolan was sitting on his porch in the thick, humid darkness just before midnight Tuesday when three or four young men, one with a knife and another with a machete, stopped in front of his fence and pointed to the generator humming in the front yard, he said.

One said, "We want that generator," he recalled.

"I fired a couple of rounds over their heads with a .357 Magnum," Mr. Carolan recounted Wednesday. "They scattered."

Paul Cosma, 47, who owns a nearby auto shop, stood outside it along with a reporter and photographer he was taking around the neighborhood. He had pistols on both hips.

Suddenly, he stepped forward toward a trio of young men and grabbed a pair of rusty bolt cutters out of the hands of one of them. The young man pulled back, glaring.

Mr. Cosma, never claiming any official status, eventually jerked the bolt cutters away, saying, "You don't need these."

The young man and his friends left, continuing the glare. A few minutes later, they returned and mouthed quiet oaths at Mr. Cosma, and his friend Art DePodesta, an Army veteran, who was carrying a shotgun and a pistol.

Mr. Cosma stared back, saying nothing. Between the two sides, a steady trickle of looters came and went, barely giving any of them a look.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; katrina; looters; neworleans; selfdefense
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I am so happy and surprised to see The New York Times reporting on people using guns for self defense.
1 posted on 09/03/2005 5:59:03 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Bump!


2 posted on 09/03/2005 6:01:22 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: grundle

"I am so happy and surprised to see The New York Times reporting on people using guns for self defense."

Yea, but I bet their point was how insensitive the gun owners were for not letting their fellow citizens 'borrow' what they needed.


3 posted on 09/03/2005 6:03:05 AM PDT by rscientist (Yea, I am a rocket scientist.)
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To: grundle

Waste of ammo firing over their heads.

Aim lower next time.


4 posted on 09/03/2005 6:03:25 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Yep! Lead is the only resource that needed to be wasted on them!


5 posted on 09/03/2005 6:06:30 AM PDT by LRS
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To: grundle

It was a short two days ago when the city was asking everyone to turn in their weapons. Imagine, just imagine the result if people had complied.


7 posted on 09/03/2005 6:06:46 AM PDT by shadeaud (Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
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To: Graybeard58
Waste of ammo firing over their heads.

Aim lower next time.

Yes, but there's the mess to clean up afterward.

8 posted on 09/03/2005 6:09:05 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: grundle

You got the date wrong. This is old information.


9 posted on 09/03/2005 6:09:23 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: grundle

Is this racism?


10 posted on 09/03/2005 6:10:05 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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Waste of ammo firing over their heads.

Indeed. Just sends them on to find an unarmed victim.

11 posted on 09/03/2005 6:10:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (How often lofty talk is used to deny others the same rights one claims for oneself. ~ Sowell)
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To: shadeaud

12 posted on 09/03/2005 6:12:21 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: grundle

The looters "are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas," Mayor C. Ray Nagin told The Associated Press, "hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now.".........



They weren't in heavily populated areas before? Well then that's ok. (idiot mayor)


13 posted on 09/03/2005 6:12:46 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger (Social Security Administration's motto: "Live fast, Die Young.")
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To: Dallas59

Dumb questions don't deserve answers.


14 posted on 09/03/2005 6:19:03 AM PDT by the_rightside (Union Corruption : http://www.nlpc.org/artindx.asp)
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To: Dallas59

Dumb questions don't deserve answers.


15 posted on 09/03/2005 6:19:54 AM PDT by the_rightside (Union Corruption : http://www.nlpc.org/artindx.asp)
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To: Baynative

I would have regarded your statement as hyperbole a year ago but now having seen Newsweek publish the Koran-in-the-toilet story, and sixteen people dead as the result, and probably little or no remorse on the part of the 'journalists', I believe it.


17 posted on 09/03/2005 6:26:39 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Uncle Vlad; All

shouldn't call it a mess, just call it "deterence". plus it will attract the nastiest, hungriest, meanest dogs on the block as additional negative reeinforcement.


18 posted on 09/03/2005 6:27:41 AM PDT by olde north church
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To: grundle

Guns sales nationwide are going to SOAR.


19 posted on 09/03/2005 6:29:21 AM PDT by wolficatZ ( + ><))))*> + __\0/___/|__..Higgens - "Zeus...Apollo.....PATROL!"....)
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To: grundle

A gun is a tool, just like a crescent wrench or a hammer. It's a tool whereby civilized people defend themselves against uncivilized people--also known as "animals."


20 posted on 09/03/2005 6:41:24 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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