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Linux vs MacOS 10..... Linux wins.
Anandtech ^ | September 1st, 2005 | Johan De Gelas

Posted on 09/03/2005 6:31:17 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Signaling needs significantly more time in Mac OS X (Darwin) than on Linux. The processor plays a minor role: the Opteron at 2.4 GHz is a bit faster than the Xeon 3.6 GHz running exactly the same (x86) code. However, it is clear that the operating system plays a much bigger role: a 2.5 GHz G5 running Linux easily beats the identical system with a 2.7 GHz G5 running Mac OS X. Despite the FreeBSD heritage, the TCP signals are very slow (4 times slower!) on Mac OS X.

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Here's to mactel next year! Bring it! We need it and the updates....... badly it seems.
1 posted on 09/03/2005 6:31:20 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I'll take my dual AMD Opteron 250/MP and Fedora Core any day.

Why, I'm using it right now... :-)

2 posted on 09/03/2005 6:35:37 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Are there forums out there that talk on troubleshooting printers? I have two Canon printers that all of a sudden decided they wouldn't print the color Blue. Been messing with them for two weeks. Yesterday I got one to give me a little bit of blue. You haven't lived till you spent complete days pulling out your hair on a da*mn machine!
3 posted on 09/03/2005 6:45:53 AM PDT by shiva
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Actually this benchmark test has already been discredited (see coverage on Slashdot) becanse it depends on a bug in the MySQL database used in the comparison.
4 posted on 09/03/2005 8:09:30 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

MacOS10 uses FreeBSD code, but it is Mach at its core, a microkernel based OS. That might explain why the "TCP signals" are slower than Linux. Or it more likely be an example of your typical "poweruser" journalist type who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about except when it comes to things like leet case mods, high technology cooling for overclocking, blah, blah, blah...


5 posted on 09/03/2005 8:11:34 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
This comparison is kind of like the bogus Photoshop 'benchmarks' Apple used to use, sufficiently narrow as to not show much.

That said, Linux on Opteron generally is much faster than OSX on G5 for server tasks. A lot of this has to do with the operating system design and optimization. It is widely known that massive server loads give less than stellar results on G5 servers. You can actually get better performance on the same hardware by switching to Linux PPC64. Apple has clearly optimized their operating system for desktop purposes rather than server purposes.

6 posted on 09/03/2005 8:19:59 AM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: onef

ping


7 posted on 09/03/2005 9:10:03 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Here's to mactel next year! Bring it! We need it and the updates....... badly it seems.

Yeah, but the gist of the article is that the problem is not the processor, but the OS. The implementation of Mac OS X made some fundamental design choices that will always make it slower for certain server operations.
That said, I have two Macs in front of me now and am responding to this on m dual 2 gig G5. The savings in time in never having to worry about viri, etc. more than outweighs any execution time penalty. I don't even turn on the PC with Windows 2000 server very often.

8 posted on 09/03/2005 11:25:01 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Granted I'm stuck on an Intel system, I'll take slack, suse, and slax over Mac OS X any day. Linux just runs faster and is more customizable in my honest opinion.

But I'll take Mac OS X over Windoze...

9 posted on 09/03/2005 2:34:52 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Liberalism: How can we stick our feet in our mouth today??)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Let's see...
Linux vs. Linux...

Sorry. Don't care.


10 posted on 09/03/2005 2:36:06 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: xcamel

Heh, from one fedora user to another.

:-)

It seems that the old addage "breathe new life into your computer" carries the most weight on a mac.


11 posted on 09/03/2005 3:18:54 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: shiva

I'm not sure. If the machine is still within warranty I'd get it replaced, if not just buy a new one and make sure the cartridges are the same so you can use your existing ones and save a little cash.


12 posted on 09/03/2005 3:20:41 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: BlazingArizona

got a link?


13 posted on 09/03/2005 3:21:10 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: dr_who_2

Apparently you missed the list of contributors.

Or you just didn't read it altogether.........


14 posted on 09/03/2005 3:24:15 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: glorgau

^^^^^^^^^Here's to mactel next year! Bring it! We need it and the updates....... badly it seems.

Yeah, but the gist of the article is that the problem is not the processor, but the OS.^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That was precisely what I was saying. We need the updates. When mactel comes, we'll also get a new MacOS which should fix these problems.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The savings in time in never having to worry about viri, etc. more than outweighs any execution time penalty.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's why I took windows off this machine about 2 years ago. But I've got the best of both worlds. It's kind of weird as I actually find myself wanting something to break just so I'll have something to fix.

And a new operating system every 6 months(roughly) is very nice.


15 posted on 09/03/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Agreed.


16 posted on 09/03/2005 3:29:02 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: Poser

I don't understand your comment.


17 posted on 09/03/2005 3:30:48 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I do and that's what is important.


18 posted on 09/03/2005 4:01:36 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
got a link?


19 posted on 09/03/2005 7:06:52 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The contributors didn't write the article.


20 posted on 09/03/2005 9:59:21 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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