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Police Chief: 'Urban Warfare' Slowed New Orleans Rescue ^ | Sept. 3, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 09/03/2005 8:04:59 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

New Orleans Police Chief Edwin Compass said Friday that hurricane rescue efforts were hampered when relief workers came under attack by the city's criminal element, prompting conditions that resembled "urban warfare."

"We have never had an urban warfare battle like this on any front in the history of our nation," Compass told NBC's "Dateline."

"You're fighting in buildings that are pitch black with darkness. These individuals have root - the criminal element have looted all the gun shops and gun stores in this city, so they're armed, they're dangerous."

Federal Emergency Management Agency Chief Michael Brown, under fire for his agency's slow response, echoed Chief Compass's complaint, telling CNN: "We are working under conditions of urban warfare."

Though the city's crime rate is ten times the national average, U.S. news outlets downplayed the connection between New Orleans' outsized criminal element and delays in rescue efforts.

Saturday's London Times, however, painted a bleak picture of the challenges faced by local police as they tried to restore order.

"One New Orleans police officer wept as he described seeing bodies riddled with bullets, and the top of one man's head shot off. He said some looters were armed with AK-47 rifles, and compared the situation with Somalia, with police outnumbered and outgunned by gangs in trucks . . .

"An effort to remove patients and staff from Charity Hospital, in the city centre, was suspended after it came under sniper fire . . .

"'It's a war-zone, and they're not treating it like one,' he said, referring to the federal government . . . Gunmen continued to fire on troops and rescue helicopters, and police officials said that many officers had stopped reporting for duty, cutting manpower by 20 per cent."

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: ak47s; greatsociety; gtakatrina; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; nannystate; neworleansrescue; policechief; snipers; urbanbarbarians; urbanwarfare
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To: crosslink
I hope with some night vision equipment we can find a target rich enviorment.

Hopefully they used the smoke as cover. The Lost City of New Orleans is now the Kingdom of the Seal.

141 posted on 09/03/2005 2:28:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: El Gato
That said, I doubt that what guns were stolen after the hurricane hit contributed much to the numbers of guns possessed by the gang bangers.

And since most of the gangbangers are drug dealers who also practice extortion, they probably had the best guns money and extortion could buy.

142 posted on 09/03/2005 2:34:51 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Cathy
The vermin will come out.

Where they can be shot? Texas LEOs and civilians, with CHLs and/or "deer rifles" (or in my case an ugly black semi-auto version of a battle rifle in 7.62x51, with scope) in the back of their pick 'em trucks will not put up with any of that... er.. stuff. Of course my neighborhood is pretty safe, surrounded as I am by two divisions of the US Army. :)

143 posted on 09/03/2005 2:40:39 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
I wasn't blaming them for a thief's actions. If it seemed that way, it wasn't intended. That would be like blaming RXs for narcotics taken. It's just they are very expensive and if I was evacuating and a shop owner, I would take valuables like guns, jewelry, cash with me if I had the time. I was surprised to read they were stealing them. When we thought we had a storm coming in last month our guns were on the take with us list.
144 posted on 09/03/2005 2:44:44 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: apackof2
Yes, Wal-Mart had over $250,000 worth of guns stolen last report

I tend to not give much credence to that number, unless Wally World had a gun warehouse in NO. That would be somewhere around 1000 to 1500 guns. Have you been to the sporting goods department of your local WalMart? They have about a dozen guns on display. They'll have maybe a couple or three times that many in the back, but those will be mostly the more popular .22s, not the 30-06 or .270 deer rifles. So say maybe 50 guns per store. You believe the gun safes in 20 to 30 WalMarts in NO were successfully looted? Be kind of hard, since there don't appear to be that many WalMarts in New Orleans proper.

145 posted on 09/03/2005 2:55:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: gogogodzilla

I agree. At the first sign of trouble there should have been a shoot to kill order.

146 posted on 09/03/2005 3:03:51 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Show me your papers...)
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To: El Gato

Wal-Mart basically knocked off that Japanese 'Just in Time Delivery' method of distribution. Walmart just does it on a vast retail scale. People would probably be shocked to hear how many copies of a book Amazon prefers to keep in stock.

147 posted on 09/03/2005 3:07:12 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: El Gato

Keep it under control down there!

148 posted on 09/03/2005 3:28:41 PM PDT by Cathy
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To: livius
I agree, but this certainly isn't the first time an incompetent local official has been allowed to hold off the Feds. Remember the dread Chief Moose? A number of people died because he was allowed to diddle along being incompetent (and biased, since he knew perfectly well from the police reports that it was not a white suspect they were looking for). Everything should have been taken out of his hands - but it wasn't.

No kidding. I remember when the "word is bond" evidence came out, and how freepers immediately figured out from that clue that the sniper was a black muslim!

And yet Moose got a book deal out of his incompetence. I imagine the mayor of N.O. will get a book deal as well.

149 posted on 09/03/2005 3:58:15 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: jec41

I was in New York during 9/11, and the blacks in the city were, in my opinion, very patriotic. Everyone came together in a kind of solidarity, for the first few weeks at least. There was NOTHING like what happened in New Orleans. I think Giuliani was partly responsible for that, not only because he handled it so well at the time, but because he had instilled respect for law and order over the previous years. If 9/11 had happened under Mayor Dinkins, I hate to think what the reaction would have been.

150 posted on 09/03/2005 4:10:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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