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To: rdb3
The only solution that seemed acceptable was "deport them all now." I just don't believe that it is as simple as that.

Not as simple as your straw man distortion of the position of border security patriots, surely. So the solution to the border and illegal immigration crisis in your view is "not as simple" as simply enforcing the law, which calls for deportation of illegal aliens as the primary "solution" for illegal entry? But we're still to believe that you don't support open borders? Mmm-hmmm, you don't support an open borders policy---but you're OK with accepting its results. Very convincing.

131 posted on 09/04/2005 3:29:59 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow; inquest
Not as simple as your straw man distortion of the position of border security patriots, surely. So the solution to the border and illegal immigration crisis in your view is "not as simple" as simply enforcing the law, which calls for deportation of illegal aliens as the primary "solution" for illegal entry? But we're still to believe that you don't support open borders? Mmm-hmmm, you don't support an open borders policy---but you're OK with accepting its results. Very convincing.

Look, my patience has run out with the likes of you. You don't debate in good faith, and you know it.

I made no strawmen. That's YOU saying that. You should have asked me what I meant when I said that I don't believe that it's as simple as that. Illegals who have been here for a while, what do you do? You conduct sweeps, stings, what? And when you do that, what prevents them from simply crossing over the border again?

This is a matter of proper planning. So what should be done first? Well, to me (and your mileage may vary), an actual tightening of the border must happen BEFORE any mass deportations because if it remains as it is, it just becomes a revolving door.

People like you make this debate impossible for those actually interested in it. Your "may way or the highway" approach is worthless.

Stop destorting my views, which you have egregiously done here. It's pathetic! I'm not going to allow you to lie on me. Fuhgedaboudit. I ain't Catholic, but this one is named after that new saint, St. Happening.

No arguments you attribute to me have I actually made myself. NONE!

So, LORD forgive me, back the hell up.


I'm broadcast live in front of a pre-recorded studio audience.

132 posted on 09/04/2005 3:41:13 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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