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As Last Refugees Escape, New Orleans Turns to Its Dead
AP ^ | Sep 4, 2005 | Allen G. Breed

Posted on 09/04/2005 2:45:21 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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To: Uncle Ike

"As LAST refugees escape.."

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The last refugees in view of TV cameras. We live in a tunnel vision world - all as seen through a viewfinder.
I am disgusted with the inablility of our news media to tell a straight story.


21 posted on 09/04/2005 4:13:42 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: Caipirabob

I am finding the Weather Channel has the most reliable and comprehensive reporting.

The "news" media are ignoring Alabama and Mississippi destruction.

If they really wanted to be informative to their world-wide audience they would show graphics, at least, if there is no video, of the geographical extent of the devastation. So many otherwise sensible people think that rescue helicopters, crew, fuel, logistics, supplies, etc can just magically appear at the moment it is
seen to be needed.

In NO not even accurate information could magically appear, in the immediate aftermath of Katrina.


22 posted on 09/04/2005 4:22:26 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: SauronOfMordor

the ACLU needs to just FOAD!!!!


23 posted on 09/04/2005 4:24:57 AM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic, will be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure society!)
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To: IrishRainy

"When the announcement went out about seeking shelter at the Super Dome, it said to bring enough food and water for 3 days. "

On Sunday a reporter was interviewing people going into the Superdome. One woman had 1/2 bottle of diet coke with her. The reporter said is that all you brought with you. Her response " The Red Cross will feed us". This woman said she had a car but was staying because some of her family was in the Superdome. She acted like it was going to be a big party. Wonder how she made out.


24 posted on 09/04/2005 4:29:47 AM PDT by heylady
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To: pius_twelfth

"That's a span of five days, yet the reporter says that the two women have been stranded at various places for EIGHT days "

That eight day number has showed up repeatedly in media reports of the last 18 hours or so.

A more suspicious person than I might get the idea of a new "Talking Points" fax -- "If you can get the great unwashed to believe 8 days instead of the actual 4, it looks just that much better for our BUSH FIDDLED WHILE NEW ORLEANS FLOODED theme"..

Of course *I* would never be that suspicious.. ;)


25 posted on 09/04/2005 4:30:14 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (MSM reporters -- rope is cheap and there are a LOT of trees...)
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To: maica
" ... The "news" media are ignoring Alabama and Mississippi destruction ..."


May I offer two possible reasons?


Robert Riley (R) Governor Alabama

Haley Barbour (R) Governor Mississippi



26 posted on 09/04/2005 4:35:55 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: Jet Jaguar
Echoing the mayor's prediction, Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Saturday she expected the death toll to reach the thousands.

This coming from the two idiots that have trouble predicting getting wet in a rainstorm.

27 posted on 09/04/2005 4:41:12 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: WideGlide

And those two, and their cronies, are mainly responsible for all those deaths.


28 posted on 09/04/2005 4:52:55 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: G.Mason

Plus I think the MSM has a harder time finding "victims" in those states. They're too busy pulling themselves up, dusting themselves off, and rebuilding their lives. Contrast that picture with the vacant stares from the Super Dome "guests" and guess which one makes this tragedy even more heartbreaking -- and indirectly somehow makes Bush look bad?


29 posted on 09/04/2005 4:59:21 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: uncitizen

Wouldn't regular people show up at the Convention Center with a few groceries and extra bottles and diapers? Or was it the crowd that expected the government was going to take care of them. Sounds like a CRASH of the welfare system. Someone needs to review, that poor choices do have consequences. So laying out under the bridge on the Mississippi River, and going out at night to turn tricks and do crack or sucking bourbon may not be a wise way to spend a living.


30 posted on 09/04/2005 5:10:55 AM PDT by rovenstinez (..)
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To: WideGlide

"Echoing the mayor's prediction, Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Saturday she expected the death toll to reach the thousands."

What is amazing is the number of people comparing this to 9/11. If the people in the World Trade Center had had two days notice of what was coming you can bet they wouldn't have hung around. These people were warned and chose to stay and those going into shelters chose not to bring food or water despite being told to do exactly that. You can't save an idiot from himself.


31 posted on 09/04/2005 5:13:00 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: DB

"It really is pathetic that they couldn't evacuate people to somewhere other than an unprepared death trap."

- So far as I can tell, the only disaster plan in New Orleans was to tell everybody to leave and then to open the Super Dome to those who were unable to get a ride. The mayor then fled to nearby safety and raged, cursed and cried about the mess he'd left behind. No leadership, no plan, no clue.


32 posted on 09/04/2005 5:28:36 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: uncitizen
Superdome and convention centers are not evacuation sites they are deemed, "A last resort refuge." Distinction is very important and should be stressed because without Red Cross approval of evacuation shelters the Red Cross will not stock or help in those areas because they are within the Category 4 storm zone and were prone to flooding. It is a professional standard put in place by the Red Cross to ensure the public safety needs are met.

Found a link for a 2001 North Carolina transportation board that showed New Orleans provided transportation for hurricane evacuees at least up until that study was completed in Decemer 2001.

2001 NC Transportation Board Hurricane Study

During the recommended phase, it has been determined that the storm has a high probability of causing a significant threat to people living in the areas of risk. Government authorities will recommend that persons at risk evacuate. Staging areas are designated for persons needing transportation. Specific procedures during this phase are: (1) the City of New Orleans EOC is staffed for 24-hour operation, (2) local transportation will be mobilized to assist persons who lack transportation, (3) bus routes and locations of staging areas for those needing transportation to shelters in or out o the Parish, will be announced via radio and television, and (4) relative and neighbors should help family and friends who need transportation and other assistance. Lastly, during the mandatory phase, authorities put maximum emphasis on encouraging evacuation and limiting entry into the risk area. This is the most serious phase of evacuation.

This plan called for taking people to shelters not last resort refuges, with the following exceptions, they decided not to evacuate voluntarily or if they waited to long.

While we are on transportation, here is a cute wittle nugget from Nagging Nagin. Denver Post

Conceding that as many as 100,000 inner-city residents didn't have the means to leave and an untold number of tourists were stranded by the closing of the airport, the city arranged buses to take people to 10 last-resort shelters, including the Superdome. Nagin also dispatched police and firefighters to rouse people out with sirens and bullhorns, and even gave them the authority to commandeer vehicles to aid in the evacuation.

Same news article from above - Estimates have been made of tens of thousands of deaths from flooding that could overrun the levees and turn New Orleans into a 30-foot-deep toxic lake filled with chemicals and petroleum from refineries, and waste from ruined septic systems.

Found available National Guard Numbers released by the Pentagon on August 29th at Live Five News (South Carolina Hurricane channel)

Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said the states have adequate National Guard units to handle the hurricane needs, with at least 60 percent of the guard available in each state. He said about 6,500 National Guard troops were available in Louisiana, about 7,000 troops in Mississippi, nearly 10,000 in Alabama and about 8,200 in Florida. The First U.S. Army, based at Fort Gillem near Atlanta, has 1,600 National Guard troops that were there training to go to Iraq, and they will be available to assist the states or evacuate Camp Shelby in Mississippi, if necessary.

Last link from Shreveport Times August 28th

Patricia Brach, public information officer for FEMA, said Saturday that her agency has prepositioned emergency service teams already posted away from the coast so they can rush aid to where it is needed. Stocked at the sites are ice, water and medical teams, including veterinarians. "With a catastrophic storm, we need all types of medical teams. But we don't do anything until the state requests and an emergency is declared," she said in an interview at the OEP facility.

What did Nagging and Blank-0 do?.

33 posted on 09/04/2005 5:32:20 AM PDT by GeorgiaBushie (Undocumented freeper)
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To: chainsaw
Get with it Jessee, Stop reading the bible

I don't think Jesse has cracked open a Bible in a long time.

His favorite reading material is "How to be a Race Baiting Pimp in 10 easy Steps"

34 posted on 09/04/2005 5:53:40 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: IrishRainy
"Plus I think the MSM has a harder time finding "victims" in those states. They're too busy pulling themselves up, dusting themselves off, and rebuilding their lives. Contrast that picture with the vacant stares from the Super Dome "guests" and guess which one makes this tragedy even more heartbreaking -- and indirectly somehow makes Bush look bad? "


Which, I am sure, is the point.


I couldn't fail to notice that yesterday, Fox News & Co must have issued a directive to their "talking heads" to begin smiling on camera and talking upbeat.

After Friday's Shepherd Smith and Whoraldo's near public breakdown, filled with hystronics, Fox executives no doubt thought that the vast American audience would begin to commit suicide, should they allow them to continue sceaming ... "Let these people go!"



35 posted on 09/04/2005 5:57:29 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: IrishRainy

Bravo, IrishRainy, that need to be repeated. The people at the Superdome were told to bring food and water for 3 days.


36 posted on 09/04/2005 5:57:55 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Jet Jaguar

"As Last Refugees Escape, New Orleans Turns to Its Dead"

"New Orleans" isn't gonna lift a finger. If the dead are turned to, it'll be by outsiders, if NO is to be cleaned up, it will be by outsiders, if NO is to be rebuilt, it'll be by outsiders.

NO is a city of losers whom have now be foisted upon the welfare establishment of cities around the country. They remain useless, shiftless, slothful whiners.


37 posted on 09/04/2005 5:59:48 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: onevoter
"... You can't save an idiot from himself."


You place milk cows in a pen, you feed and water them and when foul weather comes you leave them to fend for themselves? Somehow I don't think farmers do it that way.



38 posted on 09/04/2005 6:02:39 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: G.Mason

You are right!


39 posted on 09/04/2005 6:08:21 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Absolutely right. The precedent will be the payouts to the surviving families of 9/11 victims.


40 posted on 09/04/2005 6:09:52 AM PDT by Gunflint
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