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NG General Says Aid Delayed by Civil Unrest
Michelle Malkin ^ | 9/4/2005 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 09/04/2005 7:42:46 PM PDT by sgtyork

Bryan Preston is founder of Junkyard Blog, where he has done excellent work on the New Orleans Bus Fiasco. He has exceeded his bandwidth limit and his blog is down, but he is still gathering info on local government failures in the hurricane aftermath. [UPDATE: Bryan will be guest-blogging here until Junkyard Blog comes back online.] Bryan sends along a transcript from a DoD press briefing about the meltdown of the New Orleans Police Department--an abject failure that the Left simply cannot pin on President Bush:

GEN. BLUM: ...The real issue, particularly in New Orleans, is that no one anticipated the disintegration or the erosion of the civilian police force in New Orleans. Once that assessment was made, that the normal 1500 man police force in New Orleans was substantially degraded, which contributed obviously to less police presence and less police capability, then the requirement became obvious and that's when we started flowing military police into the theater. Two days ago we flowed 1400 military policemen in. Yesterday, 1400 more. Today 1400 more. Today there are 7,000 citizen soldiers -- Army National Guard, badge-carrying military policemen and other soldiers trained in support to civil law enforcement -- that are on the streets, available to the mayor, provided by the governor to the mayor to assist the New Orleans police department. I am absolutely confident that the security situation as it has improved in the last 24 hours will improve two-fold in the next 24 hours, and soon it won't be an issue at all.

Will something ever go wrong in New Orleans? Sure. Things went wrong in New Orleans and every other populated area around in our country and around the world every day. But I think you'll see a return to normal levels very soon, perhaps in the next 24 hours.

Q: General, you mentioned a disintegration of the New Orleans Police Department. Do you know how many officers are still on duty?

GEN. BLUM: I would rather not say. I think you'd be better to refer that question to the mayor of New Orleans. I have my own estimate. I would say they are significantly degraded and they have less than one-third of their original capability.

Q: So is it fair to say it is the National Guard that's keeping law and order in New Orleans?

GEN. BLUM: No. As long as there's one uniformed police officer in the city of New Orleans, we will send as many National Guard soldiers to augment, support and work in support of that lone law enforcement officer as necessary. So if hypothetically there's only one left, who's in charge? It's still that lone police officer supported by the National Guard in their role as military support to law enforcement.

We are not in the lead. We have no need nor intention of imposing martial law or having the military police the United States of America.

Q: What happened to the other police, general?

GEN. BLUM: Again, that can be best addressed, but what was told to me by the Mayor day before yesterday is many of them lost their homes, many of them lost ability to get to the precinct, many of them who did show up found what they were dealing with so overwhelming and dangerous or threatening to them as an individual that they made the personal decision to not risk their life until the situation made more sense to them. That was an individual decision, it was not the police chief's decision or the mayor's decision. I think that the mayor and police chief are working right now to reconstitute the New Orleans Police Department, but that question would much better be addressed to them for detail.

[SNIP]

Q: One quick follow-up. Is it fair to say, using the convention center as an example, that one reason it took until Friday to get aid in is the National Guard needed time to build up a response team with military police to ensure law and order because the New Orleans Police Department had degraded so much?

GEN. BLUM: That is not only fair, it is accurate. You've concisely stated exactly what was needed, and I told you why. We took the time to build the right force. The outcome was superb. No lives hurt, nobody injured. It was done almost invisibly.

Q: And you estimate there's about a third of the New Orleans Police Department left. Do you remember about how many are in the New Orleans Police Department?

GEN. BLUM: On a normal day they should have 1,500 paid officers in New Orleans, give or take. Some people have said it's 1,650. It's in the rough order of 1,500-man police force, and I think the mayor told me they're down to less than 500.


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KEYWORDS: cary; fema; katrina; nola; nopd
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You can't get to Junkyard Blog, bandwidth is gone. This is pretty dramatic statement from a General on the scene
1 posted on 09/04/2005 7:42:46 PM PDT by sgtyork
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To: sgtyork
I think I saw this guy on tv earlier today, saying he was tired of people reporting that no help was there early. He said there were guardsmen there Monday, and that you need time to set up an evacuation of an big city.

I just wish the Administration would come out swinging like this guy against this stuff, it's irritating as hell to have the liberals running loose trashing everyone.

2 posted on 09/04/2005 7:46:15 PM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: sgtyork
many of them who did show up found what they were dealing with so overwhelming and dangerous or threatening to them as an individual that they made the personal decision to not risk their life until the situation made more sense to them.

This sounds very much like, the cops who took a powder are not fired but will be welcomed back.

Knowing NOLA, probably the ones that were on the tube looting, also.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

3 posted on 09/04/2005 7:46:23 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: sgtyork

bttt


4 posted on 09/04/2005 7:46:55 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (Salvation Army 1-800-SAL-ARMY)
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To: sweetliberty; Borax Queen

Is it fair to say, using the convention center as an example, that one reason it took until Friday to get aid in is the National Guard needed time to build up a response team with military police to ensure law and order because the New Orleans Police Department had degraded so much?

GEN. BLUM: That is not only fair, it is accurate.


5 posted on 09/04/2005 7:50:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: sgtyork
GEN. BLUM: No. As long as there's one uniformed police officer in the city of New Orleans, we will send as many National Guard soldiers to augment, support and work in support of that lone law enforcement officer as necessary. So if hypothetically there's only one left, who's in charge? It's still that lone police officer supported by the National Guard in their role as military support to law enforcement.

PERFECT ANSWER.

Atta boy General... Don't let the sleeze press bait you into a General Haig outburst.

6 posted on 09/04/2005 7:51:29 PM PDT by konaice
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To: sgtyork; joesbucks; megatherium


7 posted on 09/04/2005 7:55:40 PM PDT by sgtyork
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To: sgtyork; G.Mason
Q: One quick follow-up. Is it fair to say, using the convention center as an example, that one reason it took until Friday to get aid in is the National Guard needed time to build up a response team with military police to ensure law and order because the New Orleans Police Department had degraded so much?

GEN. BLUM: That is not only fair, it is accurate. You've concisely stated exactly what was needed, and I told you why. We took the time to build the right force. The outcome was superb. No lives hurt, nobody injured. It was done almost invisibly.

Do you hear that, Marxiststream Media?!

That is your Death Knell! Your days of disinformation and general Quisling behaviour has just been put to DEATH on the altar of Truth and Reason!

We are LESS than 6 months away from B.I.T.S., and these Marxiststream TRAITORS will be first to see what the REAL America thinks of them!

8 posted on 09/04/2005 7:56:23 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: konaice

Over the past serveral days there have been other reports about the degradation of the New Orleans Police Department. Some include fleeing in a patrol car. Taking off there badges and looting. I have also seen a number New Orleans Police officers trying to do their job in very trying circumstances. I have seen reports of maybe 1/3 of the officers on duty.


9 posted on 09/04/2005 7:58:57 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: IrishGOP
and the Administration always comes in too last with a sissy reply.
10 posted on 09/04/2005 7:59:16 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: sgtyork

I was listening to the police scanner band featured on the Katrina thread. The guy requesting supplies reported he had 22 men abandon their posts.


11 posted on 09/04/2005 8:00:16 PM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: sgtyork

Take THAT Bush blamers.


12 posted on 09/04/2005 8:06:43 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Life is short, dance nekkid and wiggle your butt!)
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To: nicmarlo

And it could be that one of the reasons that lawlessness spread so quickly is because some people, like the state's own Attorney General, actually justified some of the criminal activity under a "need to survive."

While no one is going to begrudge those people who "later" took food and water to survive, this chaos started immediately after the hurricane passed, as we even witnessed some uniformed officers taking items.

If things were as desperate as we are now being told, why did these people even find necessary to take items they knew they could never use or take with them? The answer is because even the locals didn't think things would get as bad as they did. As a result, chaos ensued and things did get worse. Why did people expect such a fast federal response when the locals didn't even care.

Hell, after the hurricane passed and before the levees broke, the city had almost 24 additional hours to start getting things in order, but they all breathed another sigh of relief as some bars even reopened (some never even closed).


13 posted on 09/04/2005 8:06:51 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: Itzlzha

What is B.I.T.S?


14 posted on 09/04/2005 8:07:01 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Parley Baer
Over the past serveral days there have been other reports about the degradation of the New Orleans Police Department.

While I don't doubt your statement, I do not see how it is germain to my post, and the broader issue of the press trying to bait the general into stating that he has usurped civilian control.

15 posted on 09/04/2005 8:07:36 PM PDT by konaice
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To: AliVeritas

Ping: Some good Michelle Malkin stuff. [Isn't it all?] 8)


16 posted on 09/04/2005 8:08:17 PM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free!)
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To: nicmarlo

PS..the Convention Center wasn't even designated as a city shelter. Mike Brown of FEMA noted that they weren't even informed of this until mid-week.


17 posted on 09/04/2005 8:09:07 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: Brian Mosely

When President Bush mentioned that he would not let the "bureaucracy" stop the movement of the feds moving in, I knew that he was actively going above the heads of the Governor and Mayor and doing what was right, but doing it in such a way that martial law was not declared because the idiot Dims never authorized it. Our President and his staff are heros and they must endure the slanders and libels being arrayed against them.


18 posted on 09/04/2005 8:11:06 PM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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To: cwb
And it could be that one of the reasons that lawlessness spread so quickly is because some people, like the state's own Attorney General, actually justified some of the criminal activity under a "need to survive."

While no one is going to begrudge those people who "later" took food and water to survive, this chaos started immediately after the hurricane passed, as we even witnessed some uniformed officers taking items.

The Rats screwed up, from even before the hurricane descended...and continued doing so until the grown ups arrived, took over, and had to start cleaning up the childrens' mess.

19 posted on 09/04/2005 8:11:28 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Betty Jane
Blood
In
The
Streets

Generally used as a euphamism for the coming American Revolution.

20 posted on 09/04/2005 8:12:24 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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