Posted on 09/06/2005 7:35:05 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
The Assembly just passed gay marriage 41-35. The bill now goes to the Governor.
Updates, and who voted how to follow on this thread
Hold on...give me five minutes to go search for my astonished look.
That is very bad for California. I hope that Arnold will veto it.
And people wonder why I'd like to see the coastal cities all fall off into the ocean........
Between the licenses for illegals and the marriage licenses for the queers, it'll be interesting to see if RINOld signs either one or both of 'em...
any idea?
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I think Arnie is all for gay marriage.
Well, he *is* married to Skeletor after all...
Me, too. But I doubt he will.
Maria will make the call...
Works for me. Then we have to hope for specific areas to fall off into the ocean. Rats. This could become too difficult.
...hell in a handbasket!
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To all Californians who opposed this bill:
It's time to leave. May I suggest Texas as your next residence?
Licenses for illegals is not even a possibility at this point. I predict he won't sign the gay marriage bill. He has a sound legal standing on it being unconstitutional. He also doesn't want to PO his base going into his make-or-break campaign this fall.
So, if queers can get married will that mean when they poop it's a baby?
Alot of conservatives live in those coastal cities, like my sister. I'd rather not see them fall.
Did he express any opinion regarding this gay marriage issue?
35 "no" votes is more than I expected. Some Democrats aren't too happy with the idea, either.
Hey, we have enough evacuees and illegal immigrants to last us for awhile, thank you.
All I think we can say about this - is at least it didnt come from a judge.
And this will solve all the problems in the world. Ya got to love my State.
Like we haven't had enough tragedy in this country? Thanks California!
MSM finally found out the news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/12576028.htm
The decisive 41st yes vote was cast by Simon Salinas.
``Leadership is doing what's right even when it's not popular,'' said Assemblyman Lloyd Levine. The Van Nuys Democrat said gay marriage is a civil rights matter.
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I guess they don't get it, that they are supposed to REPRESENT their constituents.
There should be a voter revolt, sending all of those who voted for the bill back home and out of the Legislature.
``The governor believes that the people spoke when they voted in Proposition 22,'' which defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman, Thompson said. ``It's now before the courts, which is where the governor believes it belongs. He will uphold whatever the court decides.''
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/12576028.htm
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That sounds like Arnold will veto it.
Not that I'm aware of offhand.
But he's pretty darn liberal socially.
Thanks I got busy here. Senate session still going on.
It's actually more like 39-41. Not voting is a coward's NO vote.
Gay 'baby' playing in the
ummm ... 'swimming pool'.
Yes, Pelosi is Skeletor. And she has an exoskeleton of some sort. She would do well as a shrimp or lobster.
Sad. I guess Prop 22 was just a joke.
No way will Arnold veto it. But see, Californians have to choose whether they want to keep voting in socialism more than they want a natural, moral family structure. I'm guessing they will just give up like Massachusetts did.
Well, he *is* married to Skeletor after all...
LOL! The best laugh of my day - thanks!
I guess they haven't learned anything from the Katrina disaster!
I hate to say this...but Boulder might need to go with them...and I speak as someone that grew up in Boulder...
I just read either this morning or yesterday that they also voted in CA to give drivers licenses to illegals????
What happened to Gov. Bodybuilder's promises?>
I object to the term "pound Roberts" on a gay marriage thread.
TS
8-)
All I can say is watch out for the "Big One".
Tell people they might want to include a coupon for a hamburger with Maria's mail...she needs to eat!!!
Tell people they might want to include a coupon for a hamburger with Maria's mail...she needs to eat!!!
Let me tell you how well it works here in MA.. front page of the Boston Herald today.. a gay woman being hugged by a fruit loop liberal.. she and her "partner" are being "saved"
Now we, at the Cape of Cods, will have 2500 dysfunctional people living in Bourne and we we are expected to accept it or else!
Oh yeah.. this is working out REALLY well!!!
Sorry, that root beer gave me hiccups...lol
California Legislature approves gay marriage bill
By STEVE LAWRENCE, Associated Press Writer
Last Updated 8:00 pm PDT Tuesday, September 6, 2005
SACRAMENTO (AP) - The California Legislature on Tuesday became the first legislative body in the country to allow same-sex marriages, as gay-rights advocates overcame two earlier defeats in the Assembly.
The 41-35 vote sends the bill to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
The bill's supporters compared the legislation to earlier civil rights campaigns, including efforts to eradicate slavery and give women the right to vote.
"Do what we know is in our hearts," said the bill's sponsor, San Francisco Democrat Mark Leno. "Make sure all California families will have the same protection under the law."
Leno's bill had failed in the Assembly by four votes in June, but he was confident he could get it through on a second try after the Senate approved a same-sex marriage bill last week.
Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, called bans on gay marriage "the last frontier of bigotry and discrimination, and it's time we put an end to it."
Assemblyman Tom Umberg, a Santa Ana Democrat who abstained when another gay marriage bill fell four votes short in June, said he was concerned about what his three children would think of him if he didn't join those "who sought to take a leadership role in terms of tolerance, equality and fairness."
Umberg joined three other Democrats who didn't vote the last time the bill came up - Assembly members Mervyn Dymally, D-Compton, Gloria Negrete McLeod, D-Chino, and Simon Salinas, D-Salinas. They provided the winning margin this time.
But opponents repeatedly cited the public's vote five years ago to approve Proposition 22, an initiative that was put on the ballot by gay marriage opponents to keep California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.
"History will record that you betrayed your constituents and their moral and ethical values...," said Assemblyman Jay La Suer, R-La Mesa. "You are not leading; you have gone astray."
Specifically, Proposition 22 added a section to the state Family Code stating that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
Leno, D-San Francisco, had vowed to bring the issue to a vote Tuesday after the Senate approved the bill on a 21-15 vote last week. He said the momentum generated by that support would help him find the votes he needed for passage in the Assembly.
Leno amended the provision of the bill defeated in June into another that already had passed the Assembly and was awaiting action in the Senate. It was that bill the Assembly approved on Tuesday.
Assemblyman Doug La Malfa, R-Chico, protested the procedure Leno used to revive the issue after the Assembly twice rejected the legislation in June. La Malfa said one of his constituents was "totally offended" that the issue was still alive.
California already gives same-sex couples many of the rights and duties of marriage if they register with the state as domestic partners. Massachusetts offers marriage licenses to gay couples and Vermont grants civil unions, but both resulted from court rulings rather than legislative action.
Leno said a recent poll found that Californians are now evenly divided over whether same-sex marriages should be legal.
Tuesday's vote in the Assembly showed that gay rights advocates had "turned the corner on the issue of marriage equality for lesbian and gay couples," said Geoff Kors, executive director of Equality California, a backer of the bill.
"As the debate today shows, love conquers fear, principle conquers politics and equality conquers injustice, and the governor can now secure his legacy as a true leader by signing this bill," he said.
It's unclear how the bill will be handled by Schwarzenegger, who in the past has said he prefers the issue to be settled by California voters or the courts. His office did not immediately respond late Tuesday to a call seeking comment.
Regardless of what action the governor takes, California's conflict over gay marriage will continue on several fronts.
A state appellate court is considering appeals of a lower court ruling that overturned California laws banning recognition of gay marriages. And opponents of same-sex marriage are trying to qualify initiatives for the 2006 ballot that would amend the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriages.
http://sacbee.com/state_wire/story/13525760p-14366595c.html
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