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Holdouts on Dry Ground Say, 'Why Leave Now?'
The New York Times ^ | 9 SEPTEMBER 2005 | ALEX BERENSON

Posted on 09/09/2005 1:43:01 AM PDT by rdb3

The New York Times


September 9, 2005

Holdouts on Dry Ground Say, 'Why Leave Now?'

By ALEX BERENSON

NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 8 - Ten days ago, the water rose to the front steps of their house. Four days ago, it began falling. But only now is the city demanding that Richie Kay and Emily Harris get out.

They cannot understand why. They live on high ground in the Bywater neighborhood, and their house escaped structural damage. They are healthy and have enough food and water to last almost a year.

They have a dog to protect them, a car with a full tank of gasoline should they need to leave quickly and a canoe as a last resort. They said they used it last week to rescue 100 people.

"We're not the people they need to be taking out," Mr. Kay said. "We're the people they need to be coordinating with."

Scattered throughout the dry neighborhoods of New Orleans, which are growing larger each day as pumps push water out of the city, are people like Mr. Kay and Ms. Harris. They are defying Mayor C. Ray Nagin's orders to leave, contending that he will violate their constitutional rights if he forces them out of the homes they own or rent.

"We have food, we have water, we have antibiotics," said Kenneth Charles Kinler, who is living with four other men on Marais Street, which was covered with almost four feet of water last week but is now dry. "We're more or less watching the area for looters."


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; hurricanekatrina; louisiana; neworleans

1 posted on 09/09/2005 1:43:01 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Ms. Harris said she did not want to leave. "I haven't even run out of weed yet," she said.

Only in New Orleans

2 posted on 09/09/2005 1:47:06 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: rdb3

It looks like the start of a new land grab...


3 posted on 09/09/2005 1:49:33 AM PDT by Defendingliberty (www.456th.com)
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To: rdb3

Rumor has it that the police in New Orleans aren't going to actually force people like the ones in the story to leave. They probe to see if the people are good people, in good health, who can take care of themselves. Especially if they have some kind of connection to the military.

If so, they leave them alone.

At least, that's what people in New Orleans are saying.


4 posted on 09/09/2005 1:52:08 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Defendingliberty
It looks like the start of a new land grab...

Don't you know it.

5 posted on 09/09/2005 1:53:09 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: rdb3

'Why Leave Now - when we can keep blamin' Dubya for not getting us out - ?'


6 posted on 09/09/2005 1:53:54 AM PDT by TeddyCon
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To: rdb3
Some appear mentally incompetent

Says who?! ALEX BERENSON & Jodi Wilgoren of the New York Times?!!!

ALEX BERENSON

Jodi Wilgoren

7 posted on 09/09/2005 2:00:18 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: rdb3
"Unless you have enough food or water for three weeks, you're a walking dead man," Sgt. George Jackson told holdouts on the northern edge of the city on Thursday afternoon.

So the "starve them out" policy is still in effect?

8 posted on 09/09/2005 2:08:27 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: rdb3



Try this line of thought.

New Orleans middle class will get the shaft. The forced eviction of middle class residents is the first step in the changing of the city. I see it as nothing more than a land grab. When all the residences are gone, the City can come in and condemn any part of the city they want and plan major redevelopment. The city can wait out (6-9 months) the middle class homeowner, who will eventually sell and move-on. The next step will be new building codes and height requirements. With a master plan of strictly luxury homes the tax base of the future will be huge. Of course there will be low-income housing projects for show and perhaps a high-speed rail to bring the workers into the tourist district.
The city is already lost. The working class that was living in rental housing has already moved on. The middle class is being forced off their land. The wealthy professional can easily relocate. The only people left to make the modern utopia is the City and State Governments.


9 posted on 09/09/2005 2:12:36 AM PDT by Defendingliberty (www.456th.com)
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The only people left to make the modern utopia is the City and State Governments.

Where will they get the money?

Oh, yeah. 52 billion more from us.

10 posted on 09/09/2005 3:44:44 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Defendingliberty

This is how the Communists operated in Havana after the Revolution. They 'appropriated' all of the more exclusive houses for themselves. Of course, if you were a party member, you got to stay where you were...


11 posted on 09/09/2005 4:10:31 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Defendingliberty

As far as I'm concerned, the real issue for any one of these residences is if the tooilet is working and, generally for the city, if it can deal with the effluent from working toilets. If the answer to both questions is "yes," and the people have adequate resources to stick it out, then they should be allowed to decide whether or not to leave. Otherwiser, they should be evacuated.


12 posted on 09/09/2005 5:35:02 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: CobaltBlue
Rumor has it that the police in New Orleans aren't going to actually force people like the ones in the story to leave. They probe to see if the people are good people, in good health, who can take care of themselves. Especially if they have some kind of connection to the military. At least, that's what people in New Orleans are saying.

Well the TV tells a different story. Watch what people do not what they day.

13 posted on 09/09/2005 6:44:11 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Nov3

By "people in New Orleans" I mean people I know there.


14 posted on 09/09/2005 7:15:06 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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