Posted on 09/09/2005 2:48:40 PM PDT by rightalien
Former Secretary of State Speaks Out on Being Loyal -- and Being Wrong
Sep. 9, 2005 - In 35 years of service as a soldier, Colin Powell earned a reputation as the quintessential disciplined warrior. As secretary of state in President Bush's first term, Powell was widely seen as a disciplined, moderate -- and loyal -- voice for the administration. Now out of government service, Powell is airing openly his disappointments and frustration on everything from the invasion of Iraq to the federal response to Hurricane Katrina.
Powell, 68, who recently visited storm survivors at Reunion Arena in Dallas, said he was "deeply moved" by the families displaced by the devastating storm and was critical of the preparations for Hurricane Katrina. "I think there have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels -- local, state and federal. There was more than enough warning over time about the dangers to New Orleans. Not enough was done. I don't think advantage was taken of the time that was available to us, and I just don't know why," Powell told ABC News' Barbara Walters in an exclusive interview airing Friday night at 10 p.m. on "20/20."
Powell doesn't think race was a factor in the slow delivery of relief to the hurricane victims as some have suggested. "I don't think it's racism, I think it's economic," he told Walters.
"When you look at those who weren't able to get out, it should have been a blinding flash of the obvious to everybody that when you order a mandatory evacuation, you can't expect everybody to evacuate on their own. These are people who don't have credit cards; only one in 10 families at that economic level in New Orleans have a car. So it wasn't a racial thing -- but poverty disproportionately affects African-Americans in this country. And it happened because they were poor," he said.
Making False Case for War Still 'Painful' When Powell left the Bush administration in January 2005, he was widely seen as having been at odds with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney over foreign policy choices.
It was Powell who told the United Nations and the world that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and posed an imminent threat. He told Walters that he feels "terrible" about the claims he made in that now-infamous address -- assertions that later proved to be false.
When asked if he feels it has tarnished his reputation, he said, "Of course it will. It's a blot. I'm the one who presented it on behalf of the United States to the world, and [it] will always be a part of my record. It was painful. It's painful now."
He doesn't blame former CIA Director George Tenet for the misleading information he says he pored over for days before delivering his speech; he faults the intelligence system.
"George Tenet did not sit there for five days with me misleading me. He believed what he was giving to me was accurate. … The intelligence system did not work well," he said.
Nonetheless, Powell said, some lower-level personnel in the intelligence community failed him and the country. "There were some people in the intelligence community who knew at that time that some of these sources were not good, and shouldn't be relied upon, and they didn't speak up. That devastated me," he said.
While Powell ultimately supported the president's decision to invade Iraq, he acknowledges that he was hesitant about waging war. "I'm always a reluctant warrior. And I don't resent the term, I admire the term, but when the president decided that it was not tolerable for this regime to remain in violation of all these U.N. resolutions, I'm right there with him with the use of force," he said.
Powell told Walters he is unfazed by criticism that he put loyalty to the president over leadership. "Loyalty is a trait that I value, and yes, I am loyal. And there are some who say, 'Well, you shouldn't have supported it. You should have resigned.' But I'm glad that Saddam Hussein is gone. I'm glad that that regime is gone," he said.
When Walters pressed Powell about that support, given the "mess" that the invasion has yielded, Powell said, "Who knew what the whole mess was going to be like?"
While he said he is glad that Saddam's regime was toppled, Powell acknowledged that he has seen no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 terrorist attack. "I have never seen a connection. ... I can't think otherwise because I'd never seen evidence to suggest there was one," he told Walters.
Despite his differences with the administration, Powell said he never considered resigning in protest. "I'm not a quitter. And it wasn't a moral issue, or an act of a failure of an active leadership. It was knowing what we were heading into, and when the going got rough, you don't walk out," he told Walters.
Stay the Course in Iraq When asked what steps he would take in Iraq, Powell said, "I think there is little choice but to keep investing in the Iraqi armed forces, and to do everything we can to increase their size and their capability and their strength," he said.
Still, he questions some of the administration's post-invasion planning. "What we didn't do in the immediate aftermath of the war was to impose our will on the whole country, with enough troops of our own, with enough troops from coalition forces, or, by re-creating the Iraqi forces, armed forces, more quickly than we are doing now. And it may not have turned out to be such a mess if we had done some things differently. But it is now a difficult situation, but difficult situations are there to be worked on and solved, not walked away from, not cutting and running from."
Powell said he is sensitive to Cindy Sheehan and other mothers and family members whose loved ones have been wounded or killed in Iraq, but stressed that soldiers are risking their lives for a worthy purpose. When asked what he would say to Sheehan, who has grabbed media attention with her daily anti-war protests near Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch, he told Walters he'd tell her what he'd tell any mother who suffered such a loss: "We regret the loss, but your loved one died in service to the nation and in service to the cause."
He acknowledged that the pain of losing a loved one would be heightened if a family feels the war is unjust. "If they don't feel the war is just, then they'll always feel that it is a deep personal loss and I sympathize with Ms. Sheehan. But this is not over. This conflict is not over, and the alternative to what I just described is essentially saying, 'Nevermind, we're leaving.' And I don't think that is an option for the United States."
Powell's wife of 43 years, Alma, also joined Walters for the exclusive interview. The couple share their thoughts on public service, their current life in the private sector, and whether a White House bid is in their future.
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I have lost respect for Mr. Powell, no longer is he a man of stature.
Powell is a good man. ABC simply wants to make as big a deal out of this as possible. It's obvious from the tone of their article.
Colin Powell doesn't deserve stature, but he has it with many Americans. His comments are a very poor defense of the president and will hurt him. They're stupid comments, as we can usually expect from Powell. But they still hurt.
No, I disagree with you, Powell is not a good man. A good man wouldn't have said what he said yesterday and today concerning the war in Iraq and why we went there.
Does he recall the words "Yellow Cake"? I think he is a leftist.
He never was.
He was a token promoted along to look good. He's a stupid man. If it weren't for HIS color, he never would have been in a position of authority.
He's probably working on Alma right now to win her to the cause.
Well I gav ehim more credit than that.
His positions seems quite reasonable. The opening paragraph made it sound like he was directly opposing the administration on these issues. Instead, he is simply airing his own opinions:
(1)Mistakes were made both before and after Katrina hit at all levels of government
(2)Economics, rather than racism explains why mainly Blacks were affected most
(3)While Saddam apparently didn't have weapons of mass destruction, the administration was a victim of poor intelligence, not lying!
(4)Saddam should have been removed by force based on the U.N. resolutions in force; he's glad Saddam is gone
(5)Mistakes were made in Iraq
(6)Leaving Iraq before the job is done would be a mistake!
Gotta disagree. He is not a stupid man. Anyone who got handed a bunch of crap from Tenet and looked foolish as a result would be mad, too.
Agreed. The ABC article is written as though Powell has put on a hairshirt and is repenting working for the evil Bush Administration.
It bothers me he blows of Saddam and 9/11.
There was a relationship between Bin Laden and Iraq.
We know this. It goes back before Bush was even president. CNN and ABC reported on this. The links are often posted here. Saddam encouraged them to attack us.
Now we know that Atta may have met with Iraqis prior to 9-11 and that needs to be relooked at, hopefully the Able Danger issue will re-open these things.
This story is not finished yet. There is more to learn.
Somebody sounds bitter. ha!
I have contended that Powell really has always been a liberal in Republican clothing.
Now all of a sudden nobody likes Colen Powell? When he was sitting in front of the United Nations speaking lies that were givne to him everybody loved him. Times sure does change peoples opinions.
I believe that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction at, or near, the outset of the war. However, I also would have been embarrassed if I had made the speech he made to the United Nations. Some of that intelligence was truly "gray" when it was being presented as black and white. I prefer to handle the truth more carefully and apparently, so does he.
I think you are correct. I remember when he was appointed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff by Bush Sr.
He was promoted over several hundred higher rated officers. Of course the same thing was true of Eisenhower in WWII (not to the joint chiefs position but as commander in Europe) so I guess there is precedent.
Powell seems to be a decent enough person but he never struck me as very competent. I do recall he made some plans for the original Desert Storm and Swartzhopf supposedly said they were really bad.
Read my synopsis of his views in the prior post. This guy wouldn't vote for Kerry.
I like the man. He is a good man. He did a good job. I just think that he is shying away and taking a safer stance after feeling that he put out "bad" information.
I would ask him about what material went to Syria before the war, we know things were moved there. What did those russian troops remove? He must know about these things, but probably figures its to fringe now to risk his reputation on.
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