Posted on 09/10/2005 11:46:13 AM PDT by pcottraux
Alexa has traffic rankings and details for boths sites. You could try that.
Yes thank you. I did. And I am happy to report that the democratic underground ranks at around 3200 while the FR is at 1300. Approx.
Oh and just for sheets, ebay was number 8........
That definitely fits. I think you're on to something.
Like I said in the article, Ill bet the typical sufferer of LNM couldnt stand five minutes of what Saddam Husseins victims had to endure. Theyd come running back to the American Bush dictatorship, crying like babies, for sure.
Your analysis is good, but you fail to mention that the Left is much more prone to take away freedom of speech than are conservatives. Conservatives want to preserve free speech. We thrive in free speech. Liberals start stuff like Political Correctness, punishing students for speaking their mind in class, and punishing people in the work place who "offend" someone.
The Left certainly does have a "martyr complex", but they also have a huge dose of hypocrisy to go with it.
They are like ships adrift at sea, blown about by every little wind, and pushed by tiny currents.
They don't know where they come from, nor do they know where they are going.
They only know their feelings of the moment, and if they are allowed in power, they will become like France at the present moment: befuddled by Muslims burning down their civilization around them.
Wow. This is kind of an old thread, but it seems to be coming back. I made it not only to discuss trolls, but to bring it up again whenever a troll was giving a problem. It remains topical.
I did leave out the business of hypocrisy there, didn't I? Because this is kind of old, I don't remember all of what I said and I don't feel like reading through all my old writing now.
But another thing I think I left out is the idea of patriotism as viewed by the left. In their LNM mindset, they say things like "Dissent is the most patriotic thing we can do (quoting Jefferson)" and "The fact that we dare question the evil Bush shows that we are the most patriotic people in the country."
But the problem there is that patriotism is not something you can have a monopoly on. Can patriotism be measured? Like water in a measuring cup? Who can say that one person is more patriotic than other, because the other does not "question" the government (In reality, they're not questioning Bush, they're slandering him...it has nothing to do with the war anymore).
Going back to the hypocrisy, they claim that they're all for free speech and protesting, but they have done everything within their power to stop the Minutemen, who are taking part in an organized and legal protest on the border to bring attention to a problem. They've even used a few dirty tactics against the Minutemen (who are I think very patriotic) to try and intimidate them.
So, as you put it, Rocky, who are the real people trying to take free speech?
I have always seen that Free Republic is open to the occasional liberals who come here to debate. The problem is that they actually have to debate. Most just rant, or their "debate" quickly descends into ranting.
We welcome an actual point by point evaluation of each others arguments, even and especially liberal ones, by logic and facts, where underlying assumptions are identified and examined.
It's just happens to be the case that liberal arguments and arguers cannot handle the fine tooth-comb for more than three iterations.
Those people are the Free Republic "Self Appointed Posting Police". See if you can find that graphic with Cartman from South Park in it. It explains the phenomenon very well.
Well, I wrote this vanity a long time ago (but I feel it has a lasting impact, because trolls never go away no matter how much you want them to). I'm willing to concede that last point about the liberals who come here to debate (although I haven't seen any myself yet).
I love the non-starter argument that conservatives want to establish a theocracy. I've yet to hear anyone save for a few true nutballs even suggest this in earnest. But the Left is absolutely full of hysteria over it.
For any liberal trolls (not to mention you Libertarians) out there, let me tell you what a real theocracy would look like:
* Mandatory prayers.
* Reading of religious passages before public events.
* Laws passed requiring donations to various faith-based causes.
* Required religious programming on all "over the air" tv and radio stations.
* Harsher laws for social sins, including using the Lord's name in vain.
I'm not advocating this and neither are any Christians I know. Yet, the hyperbole of a "Christian Taliban" controlling every facet of people's lives continues to be a pablum of the Left. As soon as I hear that comment, I immediately cease my side of the argument. Life is too short to reason with idiots.
Don't think it doesn't happen at DU, too. I don't think it has anything to do with being left or right; rather, just having too much free time.
Well, I agree that it happens on both sides. But I'm not saying it doesn't: I'm only trying to analyze the trolls who come HERE and what they're thinking, and what their mindset is.
But I wonder if it happens as much at DU as it does here. And what do right-wingers who sneak onto DU say? Are they as typically hysterical and immature as the libs who sneak onto FR? I think this would be impossible to find out for sure.
Plus, rather than being annoyed, DUers probably revel in such things; making them feel like "dirty right-wing spies are trying to destroy us" and helps give that left-wing martyr ego boost.
LOL
I took a great DU this AM. Mostly because I ate a lot of bran though. Sometimes when I eat Mexican food, my DUs can be downright lethal! Please pass the Nachos....
At least that lib shaved her legs....
LOL! Wonder what she smells like, though?
These fools continue to confuse freedom of speech with their insistence that someone else be forced to listen to them.
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