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Manipulating polls
The manipulation of online polls by Free Republic has not been without controversy. The practice involves making a post directing members to vote en masse in an online poll, particularly those on television network or newspaper websites, with the intended goal of significantly affecting the final outcome. Known on the Free Republic as "freeping" a poll, the practice is not unique to the Free Republic forums and is employed by many other activist websites of all political stripes.

I was unaware that FR was the only or primary website biasing the outcome of online polls.

The leftists do it every hour to news articles and photos on Yahoo.

Here are some confessed examples of DUping/DUmping and even ISLAMming of polls.

DU: Should We Report Freepers Whenever they try "Freeping" polls?

Post #1 "Should We Report Freepers Whenever they try "Freeping" polls? Why should we let Freepers vote up to 10 times on the same poll. We should report "Freeps" to the webmasters of the sites conducting the polls. I remember a few months ago we got a poll shut down because it was being Freeped."
Post #2 "Sure, why not... And yes we should continue DUing polls. There is a need to help people from making stupid mistakes and if a poll result might influence even one person from supporting these idiots in charge then I have no qualms with it."

Here is an MSNBC poll that was ISLAMmed yet there was no outing of this scampaign to push the numbers:

http://www.students.missouri.edu/lists/muslim-l/0787.html (note, this is now a dead link)

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Omer Choudhary (xxxxx@mizzou.edu)
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Seriously, everone go to this website Milia sent and vote for the Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him. I just went and voted and apparently, Alhumdullilah the most votes are for the Prophet (PBUH) right now, at 20,352. Second place is Jesus, with 5,026. So we're way ahead but the more the better. I also want to point out a very important thing. Many of you will think that we don't need to worry about some stupid vote to prove or show anyone that Prophet Muhammad, Peace Be Upon Him is really "Number One". Agreed. However, stop and think for a minute that the amount of people around the world that are influenced by these same magazines, programs, and surveys will also think that "Hey, how did this person win? What's so special about them...etc etc". So the idea is that this is also a way, (a big way), to attract people's attention to Islam and to what the religion is all about, rather than them being bogged down by stereotypes they hear from the media, etc. So please go and vote at this website:
http://www.msnbc.com/modules/Millennium_People/MillP_ReligPhilos.asp
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If Mr. Choudhary's name seems familiar, it is because he was one of the 3 Missouri college students stopped about a suspected terrorist threat made in Georgia (these were the kids stopped in Florida on the toll road).

Seems that I found this evidence of ISLAMming polls when I googled his name the day that story broke.

Updated: 5:27 p.m. ET Feb. 12, 2004 Editor's Note: This week, the online version of the Newsweek poll received an unusually high rate of response, with the clear majority of participants casting uniform votes. For these reasons, we believe the poll is being intentionally manipulated. In addition, we received an e-mail alert suggesting that the campaign is being coordinated by at least one special-interest group.

Who do you suppose it was that tupped off MS-NBC/Newsweek?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4205947/site/newsweek/

Could it have been the same people who were biasing the other side of the poll?

Free Republic in the national spotlight
Free Republic in the national spotlight In August 2004 Jerome Corsi, co-author of the controversial and influential book Unfit for Command, apologized in the national media for racist, homophobic, and anti-Islam comments, as well as slurs made against liberal political figures, that he made on Free Republic under the user name "jrlc." The posts were discovered and made public by Media Matters for America, a liberal website [1]. Concerning the remarks, Corsi said, "I don't stand by any of those comments and I apologize if they offended anybody," and, "...the politically incorrect humor I posted on this site is evidently not funny to everyone. Detractors should have interviewed my dog. No matter how I frame a comment, "Chico" has yet to laugh." Subsequently, John O'Neill, the book's other co-author, attempted to distance himself from Corsi and attempted to downplay Corsi's involvement in the writing of the book.
Free Republic also made news during "Rathergate", the controversy surrounding CBS News' use of allegedly forged documents during the 2004 US presidential campaign. Nineteen minutes after its broadcast began, Free Republic poster TankerKC questioned the documents on-line, stating they were "not in the style that we used when I came into the USAF." Another poster, Buckhead (who himself received national media attention), made an on-line observation that the documents were in a proportionally spaced font, and stated, "these documents are forgeries," less than four hours after CBS broke the story. By the following morning, the discussion at Free Republic quickly spread to the Internet blog Power Line, and eventually to the Drudge Report and the Associated Press. (disputed — see talk page)

Does this seem like a fair assessment of what goes on here? "Alledgedly forged"??? Is there still any doubt????

Would you want family and friends to use this to judge where you spend your online hours?

RE "Manipulating polls"

Heh. Thank you, weegee; I missed that -- at the DU article, the closest comparable entry I can find is:

"Activism

DUers are active in US politics in many ways. Sometimes DUers in different parts of the country meet at DU gatherings in certain cities. DUers have also been known to attend political protests and rallies, volunteer for campaigns, and write letters to editors of newspapers and members of Congress.

Activist Corps

One of the newest ways in which DUers are involved is called the DU Activist Corps. Founded on July 1, 2005, the Activist Corps is a group of over 1,000 DUers who are committed to taking action on a certain issue whenever an official Activist Corps activity is posted.

The first Activist Corps action was posted on July 12; members wrote letters to the editors of local newspapers regarding Karl Rove's role in the leaking of CIA agent Valerie Plame's name. More than 70 letters were published in newspapers throughout the country. Other Corps activities have included signing onlinepetitions to U.S. Senators asking them to reject Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts, Jr., and to write letters of support Cindy Sheehan."

Ayep, I'd call that further evidence of leftist bias by omission. . .while the "National Spotlight" section pins it for the win in terms of bias by misrepresentation.

Now, that being said, I do consider the citation of Corsi's admission of wrongdoing to actually be a positive, in how it implies a certain superior regard for accountability on his part, and by extension, FR. And while I would agree with you 100% that "allegedly" is a shameful example of purely dishonest or deranged spin, the citation of FR's part in exposing the forgery and CBS' gross error I also consider to be favorable overall.

As to your last question, well. . .my family and friends have long since been taught better than to question, let alone "judge", where I spend my online hours.

Or pretty much anything else I do.