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Jack Kelly: No shame. The federal response to Katrina was not as portrayed.
Post-Gazette ^ | Sept. 11, 2005. | Jack Kelly

Posted on 09/11/2005 2:16:27 PM PDT by motorola7

"The federal government pretty much met its standard time lines, but the volume of support provided during the 72-96 hour was unprecedented. The federal response here was faster than Hugo, faster than Andrew, faster than Iniki, faster than Francine and Jeanne."

For instance, it took five days for National Guard troops to arrive in strength on the scene in Homestead, Fla. after Hurricane Andrew hit in 2002. But after Katrina, there was a significant National Guard presence in the afflicted region in three.

Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea what is involved in moving hundreds of tons of relief supplies into an area the size of England in which power lines are down, telecommunications are out, no gasoline is available, bridges are damaged, roads and airports are covered with debris, and apparently have little interest in finding out.

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1 posted on 09/11/2005 2:16:29 PM PDT by motorola7
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To: motorola7

The Federal response was not fast enough for Jesse Jackson or even Al Sharpton. The Federal response was not fast enough for those who wouldn't evacuate when told they should. The Federal response was not fast enough to stop race baiting and those desperate because of anger and hate.


2 posted on 09/11/2005 2:20:13 PM PDT by Revererdrv
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To: motorola7
"Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge"

Great phrase.

3 posted on 09/11/2005 2:20:21 PM PDT by EggsAckley ("The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handle")
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To: motorola7

Its sure nice to know there still a few journalists left. (as opposed to the present crop of "news personalities")


4 posted on 09/11/2005 2:20:34 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (Loose slips sink hips)
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To: hoosiermama; Howlin

SEE, WHAT DID I SAY. THIS WAS A FABULOUS RESPONSE. I'll stop yelling now.


5 posted on 09/11/2005 2:21:04 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: motorola7

Its sure nice to know there still a few journalists left. (as opposed to the present crop of "news personalities")


6 posted on 09/11/2005 2:21:20 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (Loose slips sink hips)
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To: motorola7

BTTT good read


7 posted on 09/11/2005 2:23:57 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: motorola7

Yet another excellent editorial. Bookmarked.


8 posted on 09/11/2005 2:25:06 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: MCCRon58

why weren't they using local reporters, who at least could have provided some factual basis for the lay of the land, etc.


9 posted on 09/11/2005 2:25:40 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Revererdrv

"The Federal response was not fast enough for Jesse Jackson or even Al Sharpton"

If this had happened in a mostly white district, these two ultimate black racists wouldn't have given a hoot or holler whether help arrived at all.


10 posted on 09/11/2005 2:26:42 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: motorola7

"journalists...long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea"

I don't buy that for a minute. They love to spread deliberate lies and there is very little that we can do to dispute them in making this known to the masses who seem to rely on their reporting.


11 posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:04 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: motorola7
"We do not yet have teleporter or replicator technology like you saw on 'Star Trek' in college between hookah hits and waiting to pick up your worthless communications degree while the grown-ups actually engaged in the recovery effort were studying engineering."

:-D )))

Nor, for that matter, do our emergency-management people have access to wands, as do Master Potter and his classmates and teachers at Hogwarts School. Sorry about that.

12 posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:20 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: motorola7

The difference is that the Florida authorities were more in control in their state, but the New Orleans situation deteriorated instantaneously. So even though the response to Katrina was faster than usual, the dysfunctional governmental bodies exacerbated the problems and caused a lot more suffering than was experienced in Florida.


13 posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:45 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: motorola7

I've wondered why there are so few people willing to ask the reporters who carry on endlessly about how they were "there long before the Feds" why the reporters didn't bring along the necessary food and water themselves since they seem to think it is so easy to do.


14 posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:53 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: Revererdrv
"The Federal response was not fast enough for Jesse Jackson or even Al Sharpton."

How long have the blacks of New Orleans been poor, destitute, without jobs? 50+ years. And has Jackson and Sharpton taken care of this blight? This Tragedy of a half a century long? New coverage in New Orleans shout a big

N O ! ! ! ! !

15 posted on 09/11/2005 2:29:10 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: motorola7

There are NO journalists, and haven't been for 40 years.

Only political operatives.


16 posted on 09/11/2005 2:30:51 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: motorola7

Sure better than the Evan Thomas, Newsweek, hit piece today.


17 posted on 09/11/2005 2:31:40 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: motorola7
This is a factual truth...obstructionist governor blanko is completely guilty. The only salvation for these evacuees was TEXAS. HOME OF THE ADULTS...REPUBLICANS

SPINNING BY THE DEMBOS...covering the asses for local and state DEMBO officials...

18 posted on 09/11/2005 2:31:56 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: onevoter

I didn't see either of those two over in Mississippi or Alabama. Did anyone else?


19 posted on 09/11/2005 2:33:16 PM PDT by skr
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

This is from Pittsburgh's liberal paper.


20 posted on 09/11/2005 2:33:34 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: EggsAckley
"Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge"

Great phrase.

Also something of an oxymoron these days.

21 posted on 09/11/2005 2:33:57 PM PDT by aBootes
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To: onevoter

Well, actually the next time a white area is hit watch for them to complain about the speed in which FEMA acts even if it takes twice as long as usual. When it comes to playing the race card, what's truth got to do with it?


22 posted on 09/11/2005 2:36:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: motorola7
Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge
23 posted on 09/11/2005 2:39:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: motorola7
The relief took longer to get to the devastated 90,000 square miles than it took Schmuckie Schumer (followed by legions of Democrat complainers and excuse-makers) to get to the microphones, so it was obviously too little, too late.

Surprisingly enough, this time somebody did beat Schmuckie to the cameras and microphones - Bobby Kennedy, first out of the box and blaming George Bush for global warming which "nobody" doubts caused Katrina - so there is a new speed record in place which needs to be broken!

Rest assured Schmuckie will be on alert for the next disaster - unless he is otherwise completely distracted with smearing the characters of honest judges.

24 posted on 09/11/2005 2:45:17 PM PDT by Gritty ("America's root problem is the political game remains geared toward bread and circuses -Union-Leader)
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


25 posted on 09/11/2005 2:46:00 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: motorola7

Kelly told it the way it was, but it almost doesn't matter because you could throw all the facts in the world at the phony leftist media and ratblamers and it wouldn't change their mind.. and that's because their minds have been made us since pre-2000 election.

I don't believe the Katrina death toll is going to be anywhere near what the Media said it would be, and thank God for that, but here again they repeatedly said this would be "the worst disaster ever", Tens of thousand dead, because they WANTED a horrific tradgedy, because they couldn't wait to 'blame it on Bush'.


26 posted on 09/11/2005 2:49:53 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: gusopol3
why weren't they using local reporters, who at least could have provided some factual basis for the lay of the land, etc.

"Factual Basis" doesn't belong in the same sentance as "Local" or "Reporters". You must not understand the meening of those words.

27 posted on 09/11/2005 2:51:14 PM PDT by River_Wrangler (You can't be lost if you don't care where you're at !)
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To: motorola7

I just sent this article to Brian Williams saying this is what a REAL knowledgeable Journalist writes.


28 posted on 09/11/2005 2:52:45 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: motorola7

Excellent. FEMA has a full-time staff of just under 2600 people. When you consider that FEMA was still dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Dennis...and Katrina's first strike in S. Florida just days before hitting New Orleans (not to mention the other 90,000 square miles of damage), I find these expectations ludicrous.

"SOME THINGS FEMA DOES NOT DO":

- Physically rescue people or serve as "first-responders" in a disaster – that is the responsibility of local and state police, fire and emergency personnel. (This is exactly why FEMA notes that they won't arrive for 72-96 hours after a natural disaster passes).

- Building dams or levees or activating sand-bagging activities – generally the responsibility of local/state officials and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

- Taking "charge" of recovery effort -- FEMA works jointly with state and local officials.

- Running temporary shelters or disaster feeding stations...generally the responsibility of such organizations at the American Red Cross or the Salvation Army.

- Making weather predictions, fly into hurricanes or predict when rivers will surpass flood stage – generally the responsibility of the National Weather Service.

- Ordering evacuations of communities due to natural disaster – generally the responsibility of state and local officials.

- Setting building standards or setting zoning regulations – generally the responsibility of local and state official, with suggestions from FEMA.

- Calling out the National Guard – generally a state responsibility.

Even with these basic facts known, not one person in the media is asking how it is that a state...and a city the size of New Orleans, was completely unprepared to handle a "fore-warned" crisis. A city, by the way, that is one of the few that has its own Homeland Security Department run by Terry Ebbert under the appointment and direction of Mayor Nagin.

Terry Ebbert "has responsibility for coordinating with all the federal and state agencies on behalf of the city in all areas of homeland security". He has, "operational control of the police department, fire department, and the office of emergency preparedness, and reports directly to the mayor." In other words, Terry Ebbert performs a similar function to that of Mike Brown, only with broader power and authority within his own state.

In fact from as early as 2003, the division chief of operations for Louisiana's homeland security (Col. Jadwin Mayeaux-LOEP) claimed that the city of New Orleans was prepared for any crisis that might arise. "One initiative is the Rapid Response Force, a group of more than 1,200 National Guard soldiers in 11 teams in nine metropolitan areas, including New Orleans. This on-call force can respond immediately to a crisis and reinforce on-site personnel."

"Another initiative is the Special Reaction Team (SRT), three groups of National Guard soldiers (most of whom work for civilian law enforcement agencies) who help train and work as a cadre for the Rapid Reaction Force. They can assist and augment civilian authorities and train soldiers in MP tasks. Both groups have been called in to assist New Orleans several times (most recently during college basketball's Final Four weekend) to help the city beef up its law enforcement efforts."

This is a quote from 2003: "The city's experiences with hurricanes have helped foster partnerships that make Ebbert's job easier. 'We had already established good working relationships for hurricane evacuation planning, even down to hospitals and nursing homes, those types of agencies where we have to evacuate people...and we're now piggybacking on those relationships." (Yeah...and that's why much of the city and some of their employees stranded patients in their own rooms). "We've gone to a regional concept, versus individual parishes being out there by themselves," he says. This means formalized mutual-aid agreements,

It is so obvious that the failures in New Orleans are a result of local and state officials not even implimenting their own emergency plans. The very "mutual agreements" they speak of were absent as no plans were made for refugees and were they would go in other cities (or states, if necessary). From pre-storm evacuations to coordination with other state and federal agencies...including FEMA, the public officials in Louisiana have been a disgrace.

Where was this Rapid Reaction Force and the state's 1200 National Guard reserves when it came to conducting simple law-enforcement within the city of New Orleans.  Again, had these "mutual agreements" been implimented earlier, Governor Blanco would have already had the National Guard from neighboring states to immediately help out. From Blanco's own press-conference we learned that she was only using 300 NG troops for law enforcement by Thursday, September 1st: "Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders. These troops are...'under my orders to restore order in the streets.'

What's sadly ironic in this pathetic plan, is how we are now learning not only how ineffective Louisiana's own department of Homeland Security is, but how they are directly responsible for the delay in bringing aid to those in the city. Not only couldn't they get the job down before this crisis, they are the one's responsible for preventing both the Red Cross and Salvation Army from entering the city immediately after Katrina passed.


29 posted on 09/11/2005 3:02:18 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: motorola7

bump


30 posted on 09/11/2005 3:04:35 PM PDT by woofie
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To: motorola7
National Guard was not a federal response.

Honore's command was a federal response.

31 posted on 09/11/2005 3:06:47 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: motorola7
Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea

Great line.

32 posted on 09/11/2005 3:07:53 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: motorola7

Thank you for the voice of truth and common sense.


33 posted on 09/11/2005 3:08:48 PM PDT by hershey
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To: EggsAckley

Kelly must have meant Brian no nothing Williams.


34 posted on 09/11/2005 3:09:29 PM PDT by hershey
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To: motorola7

Jessie Jackson and the so-called Rev Al did not want to be in Mississippi or Alabama, because they knew that people down there would lynch them. They went to New Orleans, because they knew that all of the TV crews would be in that area and the television crews would hang on every word that they uttered. They just wanted fan the flames of fires of the communists running the countries in Old Europe and Asia. I’ll bet that if Ophelia strikes the coast of the Carolinas and causes major damage, hide nor hair of these race baiters will not be seen. They tried to pull the same shit down in Florida last year and Jeb Bush gave them the ole heave ho.


35 posted on 09/11/2005 3:11:59 PM PDT by stan_25 (If you canít run with the big dogs, stay on the porch)
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To: motorola7
Yet, meanwhile the damage is done ....from all the bleating media saying "It's Bush's fault"....

..retractions are usually found buried on page 17, below the fold.

36 posted on 09/11/2005 3:13:09 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: motorola7
What George Bush failed to do was WAVE HIS MAGIC WAND and alleviate all suffering, miraculouisly reverse all the incompetent decisions made by the LOCAL and STATE OFFICIALS and then put into place his well-known MIRACLES R US response team to recover, feed, house and medically treat everyone within the 90,000 square miles of devestation....IMMEDIATELY!!

IMHO the Federal responsw was MAGNIFICENT and the MSM and leftists of the nation can KMA!!!

37 posted on 09/11/2005 3:18:36 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: MCCRon58
Pelosi, "YOu should fire Michael Brown".

Bush, "Now why would I want to do that Senator?"

It still stands until we get all of the facts. The first fact Pelosi carressed is "I want what I want, and I want it now!!"

We shall see in the days and weeks ahead. I hope conservative will dispose of political correctness and, for once, try to expose the truth without predjustice. Lord knows the democrats are vested by definition in a string of lies..

38 posted on 09/11/2005 3:19:04 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (E)
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To: motorola7
Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea what is involved in moving hundreds of tons of relief supplies into an area the size of England in which power lines are down, telecommunications are out, no gasoline is available, bridges are damaged, roads and airports are covered with debris, and apparently have little interest in finding out.

Old military axiom: "Amateurs talk tactics, Professionals talk logistics."

39 posted on 09/11/2005 3:32:47 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: motorola7
What a fantastic article! I love our Military mens responses!

Journalists complain that it took a whole week to do this. A former Air Force logistics officer had some words of advice for us in the Fourth Estate on his blog, Moltenthought:

"We do not yet have teleporter or replicator technology like you saw on 'Star Trek' in college between hookah hits and waiting to pick up your worthless communications degree while the grown-ups actually engaged in the recovery effort were studying engineering.

BTTT!

40 posted on 09/11/2005 4:56:48 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: motorola7

Wow. Jack pretty much stole all the material for this from a BLOG, but I'm glad he did so.

http://www.iraqnow.blogspot.com


41 posted on 09/11/2005 5:00:10 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (Saddam Hussein harboured and paid terrorists. Any questions?)
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To: Revererdrv
The Federal response was not fast enough for Jesse Jackson or even Al Sharpton

You can bet if it was Clinton in the White House, and the Republicans were criticizing Clinton, they would be saying to "get off of his back, he's doing the best job possible."

42 posted on 09/11/2005 5:01:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: motorola7

Dammit! Where's Rather with that memo??!!!


43 posted on 09/11/2005 5:44:16 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Bahbah
THIS WAS A FABULOUS RESPONSE

Somebody ought to tell the republican lawmakers who have broken warp speed to join the democrats in attacking President Bush.

44 posted on 09/11/2005 5:53:39 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: McGavin999

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45 posted on 09/11/2005 6:04:50 PM PDT by woofie
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To: shield
Red Rover, Red Rover.. bring NOLA population on over.. The generosity and warm hearts of Texas may do more for ending suffering and dependence for 10's of thousands of folks who have been suffering under liberal policies in Louisiana. Perhaps there will be a flowering of new red staters, as folks grow to appreciate red state values and red state generosity.

This in comparison to the suffering imposed on them by Blanko and Negin trying to "not" encourage them to stay. Ultimately, we might win a Senator and another Governor because of the shameful behavior of the Dems this last few days.

Even moreso, with some appropriate supervision, perhaps the "Big Easy" moral swamp might just get drained with the sludge and other horrible noxious things that have to be cleaned up in Louisiana.

46 posted on 09/11/2005 6:39:32 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dfwgator

Imagine if Jeb were governor of LA.


47 posted on 09/11/2005 6:41:42 PM PDT by orchid (Defeat is worse than death, you have to LIVE with defeat.)
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To: motorola7
Excellent. I am sure that the media is well aware that the response was good and normal by the US government. That isn't the point of their reporting, as we all know. They are after Bush and hoping to win back congress for their leftist buddies.
48 posted on 09/11/2005 6:41:54 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: motorola7; SittinYonder

Good good article.

(and as an aside - a few good reporters remain in this world, I sometimes like to point that out when journalists are being slammed all the time. 8-) )


49 posted on 09/11/2005 6:45:02 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur)
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To: Bahbah

Can't wait till the hearings begin! Hopefully Landrieu and company will be toast!

BTW you're familiar with the legal aspect of real estate. How do we find out who owns the HUD properties that are flooded? Just a hunch that they're also politicians.


50 posted on 09/11/2005 7:34:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Loon Landrieu & Co good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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