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Mary Landrieu: School Bus Failure Bush's Fault
newsmax.com ^ | Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005 10:27 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/11/2005 8:23:58 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005 10:27 p.m. EDT Mary Landrieu: School Bus Failure Bush's Fault

It was the Bush administration's fault that hundreds of city school buses weren't dispatched to evacuate the hurricane-battered residents of New Orleans two weeks ago before floods swamped the city, Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu said Sunday.

Asked on "Fox News Sunday" why New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin failed to follow the city's evacuation plan and press the buses into service, Landrieu blamed Bush administration cuts in mass transit funding.

"Mayor Nagin and most mayors in this country have a hard time getting their people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out of the city in front of a hurricane," she said. "And it's because this administration and administrations before them do not understand the difficulties that mayors . . . face." Landrieu then added: "In other words, this administration did not believe in mass transit. They won't even get people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out."

Saying she was unwilling to criticize Louisiana officials, the Louisiana Democrat insisted that Mayor Nagin's evacuation efforts had been a smashing success.

"Because the mayor evacuated the city, we had the best evacuation . . . of any evacuation I've seen. I'm 50 years old; I've never seen one any better," Landrieu told FNS.

That prompted FNS host Chris Wallace to remind: "But there were a hundred thousand people left in the city."

Landrieu once again blamed the White House, saying:

"They did [have] a hundred thousand people left in the city because this federal government won't support cities to evacuate people, whether it's from earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes. And that's the truth."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: blamegame; katrina; landrieu; nicetry; yeahthatstheticket
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To: guitfiddlist

"Let's review the concept of Time, ok? They are NOW underwater, Senator - but look...see? This is Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The buses were NOT underwater those days, not even on Monday. THAT's when the buses were supposed to be used for evacuation. Are you with me?"

EXACTLY ..Thats my point and the thing that's starting to drive me mad..We here on FR have the facts , the maps , the pictures.Is there not ONE reporter in the entire USA , not ONE damn TV station willing to get out there and call these people on their sh*t!!! NO ONE ? this is getting like the Twlight Zone..Is every single news reporter AFRAID to slam these liars? I've yet to see ANYONE play hard ball with the Dems , not on ANY issue at all. Even Bush just rolls over and dies lately.


101 posted on 09/11/2005 8:59:42 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: JRochelle

100's of buses.
couldn't get people to drive even on a sunny day - Got to listen to this.... It is a HOOT


102 posted on 09/11/2005 9:00:03 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

"I can't remember when I have heard a more patronizing comment...what black women can't drive?"

They created an evacuation plan that involved school buses, because of all the "helpless, poor black people" (stereotype #1) in New Orleans. But, school buses apparently were deemed demeaning or something by Mayor Nagin after the fact, because they lacked air conditioning and did not have bathrooms. In attempting to further explain away this critical lapse (and effectively digging the hole deeper), Mayor Nagin commits another lapse, in claiming that most of the bus drivers were women, too afraid to drive them (stereotype #2), who had fled the city. Senator Landrieu then compounds the slur, by implying that these drivers are very unreliable under the best of conditions (stereotype #3), effectively slamming both blacks and women, and black women in particular.

It would be very interesting to keep adding to this and improving upon it, as all involved seem incapable of avoiding stereotypes in their assessments of just why this key element of their own evacuation plan was ignored.


103 posted on 09/11/2005 9:01:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: FreedomCalls

message 13 has link to video...
Your Got to watch this........


104 posted on 09/11/2005 9:01:44 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

landrieu is a ditz


105 posted on 09/11/2005 9:02:41 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Landrieu is just another "New Orleans Lady".

Can you be a bit more more specific?

106 posted on 09/11/2005 9:03:45 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: technomage

They're trial ballooning their talking points seeing which will fly when the real investigating starts.


107 posted on 09/11/2005 9:04:01 PM PDT by swheats
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To: hiredhand
"If Sen. Mary Landrieu were as good at busing black people to safety as she was at busing them to the polls to vote, none of them would have died." http://wizbangblog.com/archives/007030.php
108 posted on 09/11/2005 9:04:50 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
'Maybe they want to charge him, because he makes soooo many others look bad by their own lack of inaction."

Absolutely! I saw 2 different stories from different days here on FR. The stories make that clear simply be the descripiton of the facts, which conflicted with the authorities' reaciton. I never got a complete story, but apparently the LA authorities think they shpould have done things properly. That's whatever way the experts in charge were doing things.

109 posted on 09/11/2005 9:05:05 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: elfman2

At one point (actually many times), Chris asked her why Mayor Nagin didn't use the school buses. She looked at him like he was crazy and said "Those buses are under water." Chris helpfully pointed out how long the buses were dry and could/should have been used.


110 posted on 09/11/2005 9:07:40 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: InvisibleChurch; PJ-Comix

Does the Senator roll steel balls in her palm when she's in front of a camera? I haven't noticed...

I'm coming to the conclusion the Senator, Governor, Mayor and Chief of Police are all Andyites from DU in disguise...


111 posted on 09/11/2005 9:08:47 PM PDT by decal ("The Republic was not established by cowards, and cowards will not preserve it")
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To: RegulatorCountry
Tim Russert asked Nagin how the US$18 Million given to NOL since 2002 to plan and prepare for this event was used. Nagin explains most of the money was used to try and deal with levee protection and the coordination of getting people to safety.

Russert reminds Nagin "if you read the city of New Orleans' comprehensive emergency plan ... it says very clearly, "Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the responsibility of the mayor of New Orleans. It was your responsibility. Where was the planning? Where was the preparation? Where was the execution?

MAYOR NAGIN: The planning was always in getting people to higher ground, getting them to safety. That's what we meant by evacuation. Get them out of their homes, which--most people are under sea level. Get them to a higher ground and then depending upon our state and federal officials to move them out of harm's way after the storm has hit.

He said he was unable to use available school buses to evacuate people because many drivers had fled the city.

112 posted on 09/11/2005 9:10:45 PM PDT by rit
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To: rit

Boy , talk about NOT answering a question .


113 posted on 09/11/2005 9:12:08 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: hoboken109
EXACTLY ..Thats my point and the thing that's starting to drive me mad..We here on FR have the facts , the maps , the pictures.Is there not ONE reporter in the entire USA , not ONE damn TV station willing to get out there and call these people on their sh*t!!! NO ONE ? this is getting like the Twlight Zone...

I think it's time for Free Republic to take the next step in the battle against the MSM. Although Free Republic and other sites have been immensely successful in countering the agitprop of the mainstream media, by making available information that the MSM lies about or ignores - it is still not successful in countering the IMAGES that the MSM is able to manipulate and pound into the public's heads on a day-to-day basis. The MSM easily sidesteps the facts that are primarily only printed words on the internet, then lies through its teeth with brazenly manipulated images, out-of-context quotes and blatant falsehoods from liberal politicians on softball MSM interviews. The facts are still getting trumped in the "seeing it and hearing it" category.

The technology is readily available for the next quantum step in Blog news - and that is video reporting and actual news show delivery. There are undoubtedly thousands of Freepers with digital video capability, who can go out to the same events that the media hacks go to - who can take and deliver the images that the MSM won't. Just as a small example, imagine the impact if a Freeper took images of NOLA cops on a looting spree, the Red Cross being forced to turn back by Louisiana troopers, or Mayor Nagin lounging about while New Orleans flooded/with a split screen of aerial pans of the flooded buses. Or just video of any number of these moonbats at their public events, spouting the insane and incendiary comments they make.

On the other side of the coin, Free Republic can deliver the positive news that the MSM won't. It can show and talk about competent management of crises anywhere outside the control of corrupt Louisiana Democrats, and deliver interviews with key leaders, who are asked fair questions. It makes a HUGE difference for the public to SEE and HEAR the things we can generally only write about. The broadcast MSM is solidly and shamefully dedicated to a 24/7 smear campaign against Republicans, with the debatable exception of FoxNews, and how do most people get their news? They watch it...

So...what if Free Republic were to set up a broadband news section? A full-up broadband news show wouldn't be easy, cheap or simple, but it could be started that way. A sidebar area could be created that would allow posters to put up video reports with reporter narration, or straight-up commentary, with extensive moderator control, of course...or maybe not. Eventually, this would grow of its own accord, as Freepers would review these video reports, then pass them to other people outside the Freeper network.

I humbly predict it would take off on its own after that. This section, which would start as a somewhat uncontrolled playground, would eventually coalesce into a more tightly organized news broadcasting service, with organized shows, guest commentators and near-live reports.

It would be interesting to get Freeper input on this concept, negative and positive. Both are useful - because the naysayers identify all the obstacles that must be overcome, and the enthusiasts identify ways it could get done.

114 posted on 09/11/2005 9:12:30 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Whatever respect I had for Mary Landreau went out the window with that interview.


115 posted on 09/11/2005 9:13:37 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: InvisibleChurch
I guess the liberals in Louisiana took this sign literally
116 posted on 09/11/2005 9:15:59 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: rit

"The planning was always in getting people to higher ground, getting them to safety. That's what we meant by evacuation"

Mayor Nagin attempts to redefine the meaning of "evacuation," and even then, fails to accomplish his own definition.

As far as drivers, Mayor Nagin's own description of most of them being women, fearful of driving the buses, prior to the latest spin of "they all ran away," and his previous insistence upon Greyhounds, apparently because they had air conditioning and bathrooms... well, people suffered and died because of this. He is culpable, no matter how many odd, stereotypical slurs of their own drivers Nagin and Landrieu spout forth.


117 posted on 09/11/2005 9:17:04 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Her statements are too dumb to be believed. I am starting to think that the Dems left people in the city deliberately just to get face time in the media.


118 posted on 09/11/2005 9:18:08 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: guitfiddlist

I LOVE your idea. We make a big noise here and at times have made some difference out there(dan Rather for one ) , but it's not enough . Keep in mind the MSM has the ability to reach millions , they have the $$$ and the technology and support to do ANYTHING they want.The internet is wonderful but the bulk of America STILL gets all it knows from MSM and network news ( by far ) It's a start though . Please keep me informed of other ideas you may have. I'm seriously afraid that if someone dosen't counter the blatent avalanche of propaganda , the nonstop lies of the MSM , that it will be too late sooner than we all think .
Nice work guy ..........


119 posted on 09/11/2005 9:18:33 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: InvisibleChurch

Never mind that federal funds for mass transit have nothing to do with school bus operations.


120 posted on 09/11/2005 9:20:26 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Republicans are out front in demanding more money for social programs, and bailing out those that should suffer the consequences of building and living on a flood plain. This country is not long for this world as a power broker. The fat lady is not only singing, she is on her second encore. Thanks Republicans, for not even believing your own rhetoric of smaller govt, and a return to constitutional limits.


121 posted on 09/11/2005 9:21:43 PM PDT by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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To: netmilsmom

"I like when she danced the sidestep on why the Governor ..."
Now you see me, now you don't LOL!!!!
Wonder if anyone still rents "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas"?


122 posted on 09/11/2005 9:22:08 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

She's silly. I don't have much to add, just wanted to try my new tagline.


123 posted on 09/11/2005 9:22:11 PM PDT by daguberment (Celine Dion: 'Let them touch those things for once!!!')
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To: InvisibleChurch

I just knew it was Bush's fault that all those folks did not have a ride out of town. Now the mystery is solved and there is no need for a commission or hearings. Thanks Mary L.


124 posted on 09/11/2005 9:23:25 PM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: Williams

And the fed. gov. did not have the athority to take over the evacuation because the Gov of LA was sitting on her hands. I say the LA Gov and Mayor were acting on Democrat party orders. What other excuse is there for leaving that many people in such a fix when you don't have to.


125 posted on 09/11/2005 9:25:19 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: InvisibleChurch
She's not happy.



Wonder why she didn't punch Chris Wallace?
126 posted on 09/11/2005 9:25:43 PM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all our neighbors in the gulf coast.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Never trust anyone who ends a sentence with "and that's the truth."


127 posted on 09/11/2005 9:27:13 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: InvisibleChurch

Words just fall short. Landrieu is a lying weasel, unworthy of being elected dogcatcher by any group of sane voters.


128 posted on 09/11/2005 9:28:28 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: JRochelle

HA! That's a HOOT! :-)


129 posted on 09/11/2005 9:31:33 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"They did [have] a hundred thousand people left in the city because this federal government won't support cities to evacuate people, whether it's from earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes. And that's the truth."


It is amazing with all the lies (NOT THE TRUTH)because we in Florida don't have the same problem with mass evacuation every time a hurricane comes around the corner. And about not willing to working on a sunny day is the reason that all transit buses and people movers in Miami-Dade and Broward counties are parked 325 days a year!!! (Sarcasm.) with no drivers working
130 posted on 09/11/2005 9:33:45 PM PDT by danamco
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To: MRMEAN

Why?


131 posted on 09/11/2005 9:34:50 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. )
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To: InvisibleChurch

I'm getting tired of elected democrats pretending that the United States doesn't have a government, that they are not a part of it, and that instead we have some monarchy with the president as king.

Landrieu is also wrong on the facts, but she should have the guts to say "WE failed to fund the cities", since she is part of the government that she says fails us.


132 posted on 09/11/2005 9:35:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: InvisibleChurch

"I'm 50 years old; I've never seen one any better,"

that's what living 50 years in a cacoon does


133 posted on 09/11/2005 9:35:44 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: nuconvert
"Mayor Nagin and most mayors in this country have a hard time getting their people to work on a sunny day"



So election days in NOLA always falls on rainy days!??!
134 posted on 09/11/2005 9:36:44 PM PDT by danamco
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To: hoboken109
Who the hell are these people and how the hell do they get in office .UNREAL

Landrieu lied her way into office, and hopefully, she has just lied her way out. While campaigning in 2002, she lied to the people of Louisiana by telling them about her wonderful working relationship with the President and how she supported him. After the election, they realized she had lied again and she did not support the things she promised to. I wish everyone in Louisiana could have seen her rude performance today. She was 3-D today....dishonest, disgusting and disgraceful.

135 posted on 09/11/2005 9:36:55 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Tax Government

Landrieu is trying to cover the Democrats butts, long after everyone has seen them mooning us during the whole crisis. Please, quit embarassing yourself, Mary.

Sounds like Vitter is trying to backpedal a little himself.
It's no longer just the feds fault. He must have realized how big a mistake he made by shooting his mouth off and not speaking for his constituents.

This was a great interview. He didn't cut her any slack for spouting her political bull.


136 posted on 09/11/2005 9:36:55 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: investigateworld

I don't have to rent it...I own it!! :)


137 posted on 09/11/2005 9:38:51 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: TAdams8591

Actually, she managed in a single interview to both say that the evacuation of New Orleans was a SMASHING SUCCESS, and also to say that the failure of the evacuation was Bush's fault.


138 posted on 09/11/2005 9:39:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: peyton randolph
Don't worry. The ones who died will still be voting Demonrat in the next election.


Yeah, and all the rescued animals as well!??!
139 posted on 09/11/2005 9:39:30 PM PDT by danamco
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To: InvisibleChurch
Incoming on her by someone calling her a liar. A woman Senator named Mary Landrieu;


"We know that someone has to be accountable. Let me be the first to take any blame that is to be assigned."

Senator Mary "still can't get my story straight" Landrieu, Hurricane Katrina Senate floor statement, Sept 8, 2005, Congressional record Page: S9771


The following is the paragraph before and after just to show it isn't taken out of context.

"We know that FEMA was unaware that 20,000 Americans were stranded at the Convention Center without food, without water, without security, without clothes, without buses, without toilets and with no way out, and I had to stand there and listen to the news media say these people were lawless. These were mothers and fathers trying to find water for their kids. I might have been a little upset under the circumstances myself."

"We know that someone has to be accountable. Let me be the first to take any blame that is to be assigned."

"I will not allow my local officials to be made into scapegoats for others. I will not allow carping from those who were not there to diminish my Governor, my Lieutenant Governor, who happens to be my brother, who spent 3 days in a rescue boat, despite the pleas of his own wife, his sister, his mother and father not to go. He went anyway, and he lifted both the living and the dead out with his own hands."
140 posted on 09/11/2005 9:39:57 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ncountylee
I'm not even a politician, yet I know mass transit is something every Mayor and their City Council is responsible for providing or not providing its community.

Maybe Mary Landrieu should consult with Ted Kennedy on how the City of Boston is handling their "Mass Transit" debacle. Geez, IMHO, the Dems still haven't figured out we are on to the "Good Ole Boys Club".
141 posted on 09/11/2005 9:39:59 PM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)
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To: hiredhand

Great Pic!

So I immediately went to Google maps to see if I could do it myself. Easy. 100 N Gayoso St, New Orleans, LA to 1500 Poydras St, New Orleans, LA is "1.8 mi (about 3 mins)" by bus.


142 posted on 09/11/2005 9:43:02 PM PDT by c-five
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To: handy

I thought that, but she means that without mass transit, people can't get to work -- not that the government can't get the drivers of the buses to work.

Given that New Orleans has a great mass transit system, and had a ton of city transit buses sitting around under water just like the school buses, the whole argument is absurd.

BTW, I don't dismiss Nagin's assertion that he didn't drive the rest of the people out because there was no place to take them. I don't see much evidence that there was another place within 100 miles of New Orleans that was prepared to shelter 100,000 more people DURING the hurricane, or in the day or two after.

I realise that was his third excuse, but it does seem that the New orleans evacuation plan counted on other counties to provide thosands of extra spaces as part of THEIR evacuation plans to handle the New Orleans people.

That's the problem with building a city under sea level. You just don't have any good places to build shelters in your own domain. Even the Red Cross refuses to operate shelters in the city because they won't set up a shelter where there might be flooding.


143 posted on 09/11/2005 9:43:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: c-five

Wow...I never actually checked the "true" milage. As "the crow flies" I suppose it really is a little shorter, but even with what Google told you it's a deplorable blunder.


144 posted on 09/11/2005 9:44:34 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Elyse

She really did insult the bus drivers. They could have told them load your family on the bus. Go to the bus stops and pick up as many people as you can. When the bus if full, use the one incoming lane that we have designated for bus evacuation and head to this location. They could have distributed the buses between the available shelters.

But, she is saying that the bus drivers if given the choice would not have chosen to save as many people as they could. Mary, speak for yourself. At least you had the chance to speak in the Governor and Mayor's ears and help these people evacuate the hell out of the city. Just because you and them were too worried about tourist dollars and lawsuits and failed to try and save people doesn't mean the bus drivers would have.


145 posted on 09/11/2005 9:46:44 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: Peace will be here soon
Landrieu then added: "In other words, this administration did not believe in mass transit. They won't even get people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out."


Because Nauwlins is French and they only work 35 hours a week!??!
146 posted on 09/11/2005 9:46:50 PM PDT by danamco
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To: RegulatorCountry

I'm thinking of writing my local supervisors to suggest we put a plan together to provide bus drivers for evacuation drills that aren't the normal school bus drivers.

Of course, our county isn't likely to ever end up under 20 feet of water, because who would be that stupid? But there could be other disasters that prevent us from using our SUVs.


147 posted on 09/11/2005 9:46:50 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: spunkets
Well, they got actual video of the NOPD stealing stuff from a high and dry Wal-Mart. Are they going to prosecuted?

At least this young man has the guts enough to save lives and I do believe the bus in probably the only one left that is still in working condition.

Should be put in the Smithsonian, IMHO!
148 posted on 09/11/2005 9:48:03 PM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

"too afraid to drive the buses."

"I can't remember when I have heard a more patronizing comment...what black women can't drive? But Mary will get a pass on it..."

Ain't that the truth, BUMP!

Disgusting.

Spitz'


149 posted on 09/11/2005 9:50:33 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (UN:global-socialists against freedom in action. No taxation without representation! No UN in our US.)
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To: guitfiddlist
You're absolutely right.

FR's successful responses in the past in countering the MSM has always been retort. There's a great track record amongst Conservative blogsites in picking apart a lie and forcing a retraction, but that's always long after the lie has been heard when few are still following the story.

The future belongs to 'report', not 'retort'.

150 posted on 09/11/2005 9:51:12 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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