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GOP war support showing cracks
Washington Times & UPI ^ | September 11, 2005

Posted on 09/11/2005 8:35:10 PM PDT by jmc1969

Edited on 09/11/2005 8:42:44 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Staunch supporters of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq have become more vocal with their concern over the way things are going.

Andrew Bacevich, a Vietnam veteran and professor of international relations at Boston University, said he sees a marked shift.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: gwot; handwringers; rino; rinos
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To: onedoug

Well, he gambled his election on this war and poll numbers, so yeah, I think it's a safe bet the President feels the same way...


21 posted on 09/11/2005 9:00:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Brad Cloven

Resume makes him part of the East Coast Establishmernt;hence as much at odds with Bush as Pat Buchanan .


22 posted on 09/11/2005 9:02:22 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: jmc1969
People get war-weary.

Even during WWII people were starting to get sick of the war towards the end.

And unrest war beginning to develop among the GI's from the European theatre when it appeared that they might be sent ot the Pacific.

Nuking Japan is very likely to have saved us problems here on the home front.

23 posted on 09/11/2005 9:02:31 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: jmc1969

Weak Links Should Be Sawed Off And Replaced!


24 posted on 09/11/2005 9:03:50 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: spinestein
It is the RINOs like Turncoat John McCain, Chuck Hagel, Arlen (Magic Bullet) Specter and few sundry others in the Republican Party that have thrown in the towel. That is so that they can get their uggy mugs on the tube.
25 posted on 09/11/2005 9:04:11 PM PDT by stan_25 (If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the porch)
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To: Hildy
"Why is this still even being called a "war?" It's not a war."

Then what is it?

26 posted on 09/11/2005 9:05:38 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: spinestein
WOW! I agree with you.

This war on terrorism is an UGLY WAR, unlike any other, and war is always hell, no matter what.

Hey panty waisted liberals....get used to it...

Get out of the way of our troops, donate your peace symbols to the nearest Good Will Store, start caring about terrorism as a global threat, BE HAPPY that so far we have avoided major attacks here since 9/11, ACKNOWLEDGE that the United States has demonstrated to the terrorists that WE MEAN BUSINESS, will not act like pussy coated whiney liberal cowards, and have put the UN on notice that UN RESOLUTIONS (to defeated tyrants at any rate) actually MEAN SOMETHING!

Be GLAD that we have flipped off PC popularity seekers and do what is necessary to secure our homeland and are attempting to secure an important nation in the Middle East, two actually, well, THREE if you count Kuwait, as an incredibly visionary means of bringing these nations into the world of democratic principles.

27 posted on 09/11/2005 9:05:41 PM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo murdered Terri Schindler.)
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To: Brad Cloven
"To a large degree, the way you use force is determined by the sort of forces that you have at hand to employ," said Bacevich, who said he supports Kerry but is playing no role in his campaign.

I guess it's too much to ask the MSM to find an actual Republican who previously supported the President but who now disagrees with the President's policy in Iraq. Could it be though that it is kind of difficult to find such a Republican given that Bush got around 90% of the Republican vote in the last election.

28 posted on 09/11/2005 9:06:47 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: jmc1969
Good job


Tomorrow, or it is today, we start a new blame-game chapter in the LSM; the John Roberts' hearings!!!
29 posted on 09/11/2005 9:14:05 PM PDT by danamco
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To: jmc1969

A nation that can't handle 2,000 military casualties after sustaining 3,000 civilian casualties won't be around very long.


30 posted on 09/11/2005 9:23:53 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: stan_25
I was referring to grassroots supporters, not politicians, though my take on the article is that it was referring to elected officials in particular.
31 posted on 09/11/2005 9:29:35 PM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Brazen Rule.)
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To: tomahawk

Great post!

And since I think it bears repeating, I'll repeat it:

[A nation that can't handle 2,000 military casualties after sustaining 3,000 civilian casualties won't be around very long.]


32 posted on 09/11/2005 9:32:41 PM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Brazen Rule.)
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To: WOSG

Good rebutal. Thanks. As our and the Iraqi forces relentlessly cream the remaining local and foreign insurgents and the Iraqi border is effectively closed, then the voting over the constituion goes through etc., more crap will have to be generated by so called experts. One things for certain, the L/MSM cannot allow any positive comments about the Iraqi SASO to leak out. All they do is do a real quick report on something like Tal Afar, so they don't appear fully neglegent.
Meantion that some alleged freedom fighters appear to have been injured, and five Iraqi soldiers killed in action, with treats of terrible consequencies if the US/Iraq army do not pull out. And the masses of morons follow the shit like a fly goes to jelly. Tis life in the good old US of A.


33 posted on 09/11/2005 9:34:33 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Brad Cloven
In jabbing at the president's landing on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in 2003, Bacevich says Bush sought to become the "first warrior President." (Hello, George Washington?)

Not to mention Jackson, Grant, T. Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and Kennedy... just to name a few off of the top of my head. This guy is a complete cretin.

APf

34 posted on 09/11/2005 9:44:53 PM PDT by APFel
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To: jmc1969
What people are looking for from the president, he said, are more specifics and measures for success.

The President has repeated a consistent, specific measurement for success, Simply put the message has been, "As Iraqis stand up, Americans will stand down.".

What people are looking at every evening is a co-ordinated effort by the liberals and their willing accomplices in the MSM to convince us, "Americans will never be able to stand down because Iraqi's will never be able to stand up.".

Every poll has the questions constructed to elicit polling numbers which reflect an ever increasing Bush is failing response. How many of the people who say they are not happy with Bush's handling of the war are not happy because they feel our military is not being allowed to simply pulverize the enemy before they cross the Syrian or Iranian borders? If this question were asked I think you would find the American people overwhelmingly support the war.

35 posted on 09/11/2005 9:45:08 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: jmc1969
Chuck Hagel and the RINOs are worried.

They should be. They know that no one will vote for pussies!

36 posted on 09/11/2005 9:47:26 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: jmc1969

To Hell with those bastards! We are 4 years removed from 9-11 and all they think about are themselves.
Any RINO runs for President in 08-- I'm not voting, not like I would've really wanted to well........unless Hitlery is running then I'll have to hold my nose and pull the lever. I forgot about that B!t#h.


37 posted on 09/11/2005 9:48:21 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: ladyinred

Of coarse they're misinformed. How many of them listen to the news and here about us fighting "insurgents" and not terrorists.
It's so frustrating hearing people repeat this garbage and thinking they're up to speed with what is going on.


38 posted on 09/11/2005 9:53:32 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: jmc1969

In order to suceed in Iraq, we must stop the "insurgents".

That means taking out Syria and taking out Iran.

But in both cases, we should simply destroy their military capacity and infrastructure - then, after we have wasted them, pull out.

Let the cry babies in the U.N. worry about reconstruction.


39 posted on 09/11/2005 9:58:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Brad Cloven
Yes. I would put him in the "Used to be GOP supporter of the war" category.

/sarcasm
(This tag has been provided as a courtesy for the sarcastically impaired.)

40 posted on 09/11/2005 10:03:18 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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