Carjacker, Victim Killed in Cobb (Georgia)

11Alive ^ | 9/13/2005 | Kevin Rowson

[skinkinthegrass]

We had a high-speed chase here a couple years ago where the carjacker realized he was about to hit the Douglas County line and jumped out of the car and surrendered!

LOL!...sounds real scary.."Please, Mr. Police Officer, Not there in Douglas County ." :D

[geezerwheezer]

My friends that live up there told me that this dude pistol-whipped the lady and beat her like a rented mule! I hope he enjoys his stay in Hell, because that is where he belongs. I cannot believe the savagery of some.

[Preachin']

I live in Acworth.

[em2vn]

I hope Shawn is related to judge Roberts.

[ChefKeith]

Cap 'em, tag 'em, bag 'em ping

[Black Tooth]

Last week, a man posing as an evacuee from Louisiana approached a woman as she walked out her front door. The man beat and raped the woman inside her apartment before forcing her to drive to a bank in Cobb County and take money out of an ATM.

So, many of those that looted and raped Louisiana have been scattered all over the landscape? Nice.

Say, didn't Texas get the majority of these guys?

[Black Tooth]

Wrong.

[Black Tooth]

That photo: Right into the driver door where the young mother was seated. Bet she was dead instantly.

Shoot the SOB again.

[Black Tooth]

Correction That photo: Right into the *passenger* door where the young mother was seated. Bet she was dead instantly.

[July 4th]

he later told 11Alive’s Kevin Rowson he had no choice but to shoot the carjacker because he was turning his gun toward him. Roberts said it was him or the carjacker.

Smart man. Self-defense = no charges.

[Mark was here]

I disagree. When the officer comes on the scene, all he knows for sure is that person A is alive wiht a gun in his hand and person B is dead (I presume person B dropped his gun somewhere around the time he go hit by the 2nd or 3rd round). Restraining person A until such time as he is convinced he fully understands what actually happened and why is prudent and proper procedure, and is necessary for public safety.

Well I'm not into this zero tolerance - one size fits all thinking. The cops can take the weapon. In this case several witnesses came froward and immediately explained the circumstance. For this upstanding citizen to be driven around in handcuffs like a common thief is reprehensible.

Reminds me of the teacher who disciplined a 2nd grader for having a dangerous weapon, a plastic fork. The school dropped the charges after the parents threatened to sue, citing the fact that the kid got the weapon from the school cafeteria.

I'm not asking for much, for cops to be in danger, just common sense, if the cops want to handcuff a citizen they now is not a risk but a here, they need sensitivity training.

[basil]

Thanks goodness for armed citizens. There is one less dangerous person breathing air today! He is no longer able to harm anyone.

[Mark was here]

Should of ended post 33 this way:

I'm not asking for much, for cops to be in danger, just common sense, if the cops want to handcuff a citizen they know is not a risk but a hero, they need sensitivity training.

[Black Tooth]

In this case several witnesses came froward and immediately explained the circumstance. For this upstanding citizen to be driven around in handcuffs like a common thief is reprehensible.

Wrong again.

Crime scenes can be chaotic, and very dangerous. How would the responding LEOs know the witnesses were not with the perp and part of the crime? Many times the witnesses are not reliable, ie: they are intoxicated, have bad vision, are medicated, and excited and upset about witnessing a violent crime etc.

And you never know. The bad guys friends/family could show up on scene and try and kill the guy that killed their buddy/family members. It's for everyones safety, including the hero shooter in this case. That is why they have investigations, and temporarily put people into custody and and or detain them until the investigation can be sorted out.

[Mark was here]

Wrong.

Come on and get real, this guy did not deserve to be tortured in handcuffs. If he was given a ride into the station with out the cuffs to get a formal statement that's fine. Once the cuffs come out, so does the lack of respect for the hero. Torturing someone is a fine way to show respect.

[monday]

"Restraining person A until such time as he is convinced he fully understands what actually happened and why ..."

and once he understands, a full apology and removal of the handcuffs. If he was driving this guy around in handcuffs then I agree with Mrs. Mark. He deserves to be handcuffed and shown on TV with a sign identifying him as a jack booted thug.

[Mark was here]

How would the responding LEOs know the witnesses were not with the perp and part of the crime? Many times the witnesses are not reliable, ie: they are intoxicated, have bad vision, are medicated, and excited and upset about witnessing a violent crime etc.

We are not talking about other hypothetical situations. This was just a zero tolerance, zero thinking response.

[RonF]

Reminds me of the teacher who disciplined a 2nd grader for having a dangerous weapon, a plastic fork. The school dropped the charges after the parents threatened to sue, citing the fact that the kid got the weapon from the school cafeteria. I'm not asking for much, for cops to be in danger, just common sense, if the cops want to handcuff a citizen they now is not a risk but a here, they need sensitivity training.

Common sense tells me that there's not much comparison between a kid with a plastic fork and an adult with a handgun near a dead body.

As far as a bunch of people immediately telling the cop what happened; it wouldn't be the first time a group of people had lied to a cop. It also wouldn't be the first time that a group of people saw something that didn't happen.

An example of the latter; I was a student at MIT when a group of students pulled a hack. They buried a mechanism at the sidelines in Harvard Stadium. During the Harvard-Yale football game, it inflated a black weather balloon with "MIT" on it, sealed it, and had it pop up from the middle of the sidelines and float up into the stands. Subsequently, numerous eye-witnesses swore it came down from the stands originally.

If I had been that citizen, I'd fully expect to be disarmed and restrained until the cop had a chance to do his job.