Posted on 09/13/2005 7:18:10 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
Your very wrong, and you do not know what your talking about.
Read 36 again.
What if one witness pointed who he thought was the bad guy, and another witness pointed out someone else? Are you going to cuff both? Or neither, so as not to offend?
What if all they had was a description of a dangerous bad guy, and they see some guy two blocks away fitting the description. Should they temporarily detain and cuff him until they get an ID on this guy?
Witness get it wrong all the time. Not only that, like I said previously, many times at crime scenes the bad guys friends and family show up, and will try and harm or kill the guy that killed theirs. Many times those that claim to be witnesses are actually with the perpetrator.
You may not understand, but many times people are put into temporary custody, or are detained temporarily for their own protection, AND so the LEOs can figure out what the hell happened, and conduct an investigations.
Again, you haven't a clue what you are talking about. Hopefully your getting the picture.
Exactly, and don't talk to 'em (cops) until your released!
This is great news. Does "taken into custody" automatically imply being cuffed? Is that standard procedure? I don't really blame the cops if they did. He just shot and killed someone, rightfully so, but until the cops know this, I think they are wise to protect themsleves. You never know if it's a drug deal gone bad or boyfiend/girlfriend thing or what. I don't blame them for not wanting to be next. I can't imagine the amount of stress these guys endure when they're in situations like this. Thank God for this hero.
Bang
Cuffing someone and temporally detaining them until an investigation can be completely is routine and for everyones safety.
You got it.
You will know the race of the criminal if the ACLU, MSM,
Follyweirds and other creeps rush to proclaim him as a
"victim"
Texas justice will handle them
I recall a column by Jeff Cooper a few years ago in which he said no citizen should be subjected to the indignity of being hand cuffed without damned good reason, and the catch all-"it is for my own safety", which just about all cops are taught doesn't qualify.
He also pointed out that in ancient Rome, it was illegal to shackle a Roman Citizen for any reason period.
I may be mistaken, but I think this occurred in Georgia.
We'll, your wrong too.
Well I guess that settles it.
I was just going to let it go but that is pure Bull Crap.
Now I wouldn't go as far as the ancient Romans and not ever cuff anyone but you don't know what the situation was there. Cops simply want to control the situation. Sometimes that requires cuffing people but most of the time it simply is an abuse of their position.
They don't have the right to abuse the public in order that they never be placed in any more danger than might otherwise be the situation.
Yes, on some odd occassion it might result in the injury or death of a cop and on some odd occassion it might result in the escape of a suspect but the right of citizens to not be humiliated is of extreme importance, not just an inconvenience.
Cuffing someone and temporally detaining them until an investigation can be complete is routine and for everyones safety.
"Still carrying a handgun, the carjacker fled from the SUV on foot"
With gun in hand, this guy was fair game.
You get there, see a dead perp, dead victim, and heroic citizen probably sitting there with other people around.
You ask what happened and everyone agrees on the basics. You talk to the heroic citizen who killed the perp. You obtain all the information from him, congratulate him, and ask him where the gun is, take possession of it for evidence, and ask him to stick around while everything is sorted out.
Now some cops would arrive, start grabbing everyone around and cuffing them, "it's for my own safety of course", put them in the back of their cruisers, ask a few of the witnesses what happened then sit around with your buddies discussing the last football game while awaiting an investigator.
If I read the article correctly, the assailant was black and was pictured. He is also a suspect in the rape of another woman prior to the carjacking. Looks like the carjack victim was killed by the accident, so I suppose apolgists for the slime will claim he didn't mean to kill her. (barf)
As for the hero who killed the scumbag and saved everyone a lot of time and $$, if he is white then I fear the usual suspects will turn this into a racial issue.
I give up.
You're right. Never cuff and or detain anyone at a murder scene. Just talk it all out, and congratulate the shooter.
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