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To: tgambill
Now, when you find the facts that actually state Missiles did not come from Afgh. we'll talk.

Which missiles? The ones you still have yet to show are in the Balkans?

Oh, those missiles.

Yeah, gonna have a problem there, Tom.

Cripes, even an everyday high jumping analogy is beyond you - but you've managed to blunder into something pertinent: this debate is in Limbo until you get someone to explain the basic elements of Logic to you.

79 posted on 03/07/2006 8:28:07 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Hopeless, you aren't following your own advice. I've given you logic, and in following the basic routine, you use weak verbal attacks, characteric of someone without an argument or any basic facts. Look at your posts. Not one single shread of argument or fact to work from. Your only argument is to counter my evidence, with empty verbage. Amazing that you don't see it. It's really sad.......




"Which missiles? The ones you still have yet to show are in the Balkans?"

***** Are you sleep walking? Are you even looking at this thread? Do you have any idea how empty your arguments have become? No answer necessary, it's self evident.



"Oh, those missiles.

Yeah, gonna have a problem there, Tom."

***** Well, now we are getting somewhere. You finally admit it. There is hope for you yet.



"Cripes, even an everyday high jumping analogy is beyond you - but you've managed to blunder into something pertinent: this debate is in Limbo until you get someone to explain the basic elements of Logic to you."

***** What does this have to do with the discussion? Once again you are a long way off and with no logic in accordance with the current thread. You need help...serious self reflection.





81 posted on 03/07/2006 9:49:48 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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My, you didn't tell me that in January 2002 you knew about the missiles. You tend to leave out key information. Also, Destro told me to tell you hi...:)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/611893/posts

http://www.rediff.com/us/2001/nov/22ny8.htm

"One Arabic language article describes how in 1999 bin Laden received Russian anti-aircraft rockets from Bulgaria and how the rockets were smuggled through Pakistan with the help from 'Albanian separatists who are fighting in southern Serbia'."





Now, to set the record straight, there were in fact 17 MPRI members with the NLA. They were helo lifted out of harms way when the Macedonians were closing in on their positions in Aracinovo. This is definite as they, (MPRI) was also active in Operation Storm advising in military operations.



Talking about the KLA training facilities in Northern Kosovo. The northern Kosovo area was only one of many regions where the KLA trained. In some cases there were reports of them training with the MUH in Macedonia and an area near Kamenica. There were also several other training areas located in the GSZ, outside of the American KFOR boundary lines. I know this because on one occasion the American KFOR reported in the year 2000, that members of the UCPMB would walk up to the Observation points and give them their (UCPMB), training schedules for the training they were conducting within the 5 mile GSZ (Ground Safety Zone between Kosovo boundary and Southern Serbia.

There were also training areas in Prizren, several near Pristina, and PEC. Despite the fact that I have many of the grid coordinates, KFOR HQ in Pristina gave me a copy of THE Map entitled, "NATO/KFOR UNCLASSIFIED: ILLEGAL TRAINING AREAS"; Dated 01 Oct 2003. As a matter of fact it was given to me by a German Major from KFOR even before Bondsteel had a copy.

A report summary that I wrote:

"I also know that Islamic Fundalmentalist are operating with NLA members in Macedonia and Albania.

Following the days of the UCPMB activity and years afterwards, I had learned about “Illegal Training Areas”. The American forces never did believe that it was going on simply because they couldn’t see it. They were hampered because the groups knew when the patrols were going out, they had lookouts, and when patrols were seen, the training would cease. Finally in 2003, I was visiting Pristina and encountered a German Officer that I was acquainted with. He, nonchantly offered to give me a “map” of “Illegal Training Areas”, which included areas in my region as well as areas in the entire province of Kosovo. The map was listed as unclassified and could be distributed to members of the KFOR, UN and OSCE. I looked with amusement at how they could have an official map of areas that “didn’t exist”. He belonged to KFOR Headquarters in Pristina. The following week the Major attended a meeting in Camp Bondsteel and presented the map to the American forces, and to their surprise." END



You wrote:

"You'll recall the last time the training camps in Kosovo ploy was tried by Pravda, it turned out they named a village that was in fact a Serb village, much to the resident's surprise."

*******Wrong......the training areas were in fact being conducted around Serbian villages. This instilled intimidation and fear around the villages. I can give you names of many Serbian sheep herders that were murdered when they ventured into these areas. The UCPMP would post "wood cutters" as lookouts for KFOR helo's and KFOR patrols. The American KFOR would never acknowledge the existence of these camps. I reported this in every meeting anyway. I also tried to tell them that the camps were mobile with lookouts.......usually near barns for quick access in case of helos overhead. When? 1999 to at least 2004.....

I noticed even back in 2002, you liked to mess with people. You love the word...."Cripes".


85 posted on 03/09/2006 5:29:28 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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