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Mayor Nagin's New Plan (Green Apple Quickstep)(These Boots Are Made For Walkin'>
09/13/2005
| Yours Truly
Posted on 09/13/2005 9:50:50 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: Lady Jag
A quote I have always liked but can't find attribution for the first paragraph:
For what are you willing to dedicate your life? To see this become a nation of disarmed slaves, subject to the whim of an armed, para-military police force? If so, then I am glad to discover I have finally found the person for whom I was long ago entrusted with a message. It was you, it turns out, whom Samuel Adams was addressing when he said at the Philadelphia State House on August 1, 1776:
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
FGS
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posted on
09/13/2005 11:26:51 AM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: ForGod'sSake
"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, 'What should be the reward of such sacrifices?' ... If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" --Samuel Adams
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posted on
09/13/2005 11:36:37 AM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
To: ForGod'sSake
I got part of it. Did he also say the first part?
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posted on
09/13/2005 11:37:53 AM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
To: Lady Jag
I got part of it. Did he also say the first part? I dont' think so, but I'll be darned if I can find the first paragraph anywhere on the web. It's as if it materialized out of thin air. Now that I think about it, it may have been created by another Freeper during one of the many "discussions" here. The first paragraph of course attributes the second to Samuel Adams.
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posted on
09/13/2005 12:25:54 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: ForGod'sSake
THE LIBERTARIAN ENTERPRISE Number 52, July 31, 1999
A Gunfight On Every Streetcorner?
by Vin Suprynowicz vin@lvrj.com Special to The Libertarian Enterprise In response to my July 11 column, pointing out there were no serial killings in Santa Clara, California over the Fourth of July weekend thanks to an armed gun-store employee who was able to put a stop to a would-be mass murderer's rampage before it got started, one B.R. wrote in, asserting:
"So, if'n we arm everyone, we can have real Viet Cong type snipers and fire fights every Time we get a hankerin. ..."
I replied: Greetings, B.R. -- In Switzerland, every head of household -- being a member of the militia -- is expected to keep a machine gun in his home. No one pretends this right and duty has anything to do with fending off bears or Wild Indians ... or even "legitimate sporting use" (a phrase coined by Joseph Goebbels.) Yet firefights are notably rare in that extremely peaceful, modern industrial nation. Before 1912, when there was no "gun control" in this nation and machine guns could be purchased through the mail, foreign visitors found America one of the most peaceful and polite nations on earth -- a condition which six decades of "gun control" and the accompanying Cult of the Omnipotent State are now, finally, beginning to destroy. In Germany and elsewhere in Eastern Europe in the 1920s, most citizens -- notably including the Jews -- tried to prove they were "law-abiding" by turning in their firearms as required by law. Many of them found cause to regret that decision in the years immediately after 1939. In desperation and at incalculable expense, the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto did finally fight a two-month rebellion against their armed oppressors. (Why is it those who say they "want to get rid of all the guns" can only laugh at our silliness when we propose that they start by disarming their own government police? Can it be they don't really mean everyone would give up their guns, at all -- that they instead mean to duplicate here the government monopoly on arms which prevailed in Nazi-occupied Europe from 1939 to 1945?) Starting on April 19, 1943 (a date which Janet Reno and Bill Clinton decided to commemorate quite remarkably in 1993), those residents of the Warsaw ghetto launched a hopeless rebellion with only 14 rifles and fewer than 50 pistols. (You can still read all about in Leon Uris' great novel, MILA 18.) That rebellion nonetheless proved to the world that -- pushed to the limit -- Jews could fight to defend their children and their culture from utter extinction, and fight with nearly superhuman zeal. It was, in great measure, that demonstration which made thinkable the birth of the sovereign modern nation of Israel, in 1948. (And here we find another nation, by the way -- like peaceful Switzerland -- where no one has to worry any longer about children being shot up by terrorists or madmen in the schools. And why not? Because the Israelis finally wised up and issued their teachers semi-automatic pistols, at which point terrorism in Israeli schools stopped overnight. Oh, sorry, was I not supposed to bother your with any inconvenient facts?) Are you saying you believe the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto had no right to revolt against those who had imposed "gun control" upon them -- and who were starving their children, raping their women, shipping off hundreds of thousands of their neighbors and family members to the extermination camps, and otherwise casually shooting them down in the streets like dogs? That if you had it in your power, you would see to it that they started their revolt with fewer than 14 rifles and a few dozen pistols? If I had it in my power to go back to that time and place and carry along one thing, I would take them a .30-caliber Browning machine gun, and as many loaded ammo belts as I could carry. Instead, I can only strive to prevent it all from happening again ... here. For what are you willing to dedicate your life? To see this becomes a nation of disarmed slaves, subject to the whim of an armed, para-military police force? If so, then I am glad to discover I have finally found the person for whom I was long ago entrusted with a message. It was you, it turns out, whom Samuel Adams was addressing when he said, at the Philadelphia State House on August 1, 1776: "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." You -- the smug, fascist toadie.
Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His new book, Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998 is available at $21.95 plus $3 shipping ($6 UPS; $2 shipping each additional copy) through Mountain Media, P.O. Box 271122, Las Vegas, Nev. 89127. The 500-page trade paperback may also be ordered via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html, or at 1-800-244-2224. Credit cards accepted; volume discounts available.
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posted on
09/13/2005 12:44:48 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
To: ForGod'sSake
Work interrupted...see the last paragraph in my preceding post.
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posted on
09/13/2005 1:20:52 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
To: ForGod'sSake
I heard Doug Stephan keep saying, "So what?" to this. He got really confrontational with the caller. "What is your motivation for saying this?"
He was so hot, I found it highly amusing. That caller nailed him! I hope he didn't ruffle her feathers any. A mayor flees the entire state? There may have been a few horse thief mayors who fled their state like that, but that's the bulk of it. This is a rare and noteworthy occurence.
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posted on
09/13/2005 2:15:01 PM PDT
by
Arthur Wildfire! March
("...most mayors in this country have a hard time getting their people to work on a sunny day...")
To: Lady Jag
Aha....or not? From that it would at least imply Vin Suprynowicz penned the original? If I read the piece right, it was written in 1999. I captured the quotation no more than four years ago, so it would have most likely come from a posting on FR. Maybe Vinny's a Freeper???
Anyway, the two paragraphs together make a bolder statement than Adams' words alone, though they are powerful in and of themselves.
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posted on
09/13/2005 2:44:00 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
A mayor flees the entire state? That's not what the MSM is reporting, at least the last time I caught anything about it. They reported he moved his family to Big D and he would be "commuting". I don't know if the vice mayor, assistant mayor or whatever is any better than Nagin, but Nagin, if he was/is an honorable man, would step down. Since from all accounts he has no honor, I suspect the citizens of Nawlins will be stuck with him til the end of his term.
There may have been a few horse thief mayors who fled their state like that, but that's the bulk of it. This is a rare and noteworthy occurence.
Nagin gives horse thieves a good name.
FGS
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posted on
09/13/2005 2:51:43 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: ForGod'sSake
I've pinged them but no response. I sent an e mail also but no reply.
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posted on
09/13/2005 3:54:32 PM PDT
by
bert
(K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
To: bert
Same here. Best I can tell much of Metairie was flooded along with Nawlins. Depending on where one lives in Metairie determines just how much flooding one got. They're probably still without power in any case, assuming they even decided to "ride it out". Hoping for the best for 'em.
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09/13/2005 4:31:23 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: bitt; pookie18
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:33:02 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: ForGod'sSake; Zacs Mom; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; ...
bumping and pinging and laughing!! Thanks, FGS!
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:39:10 PM PDT
by
bitt
('But once the shooting starts, a plan is just a guess in a party dress.' Michael Yon)
To: bitt
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posted on
09/13/2005 4:59:14 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: ForGod'sSake
You'll see it in
Today's Toons 9/14/05 with an audio clip...thanks.
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posted on
09/13/2005 5:10:33 PM PDT
by
pookie18
(Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
To: ForGod'sSake
The vapors!!! rotfl......even funnier since I found out that the "vapors" meant flatulence!!
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posted on
09/13/2005 5:21:28 PM PDT
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
To: pookie18
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posted on
09/13/2005 5:40:50 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: Zacs Mom
The vapors!!! rotfl......even funnier since I found out that the "vapors" meant flatulence!! Gastric distress is on of several definitions heh,heh. Webster has a more, uh, "modest" take on "the vapors":
4 plural a archaic : exhalations of bodily organs (as the stomach) held to affect the physical or mental condition
b : a depressed or hysterical nervous condition
;^)
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posted on
09/13/2005 5:47:14 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: ForGod'sSake
I love it. You need
these boots are made for walking playing in the background
click on it
To: Victoria Delsoul
Well aren't you clever!!!
Help me out here; I noticed "These Boots" is a wav file and I thought wav files were by their nature, HUGE. This one is only a little over 400K! What's up with that......if you know?
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posted on
09/13/2005 8:19:19 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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