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To: rob777

Say I put up a picture of a house and a picture of a rock, and ask people which one do they think was designed. Obviously, most people will say that the house was designed because it was build by humans. The rock was formed naturally.

But along comes ID. ID says that both the house and the rock were designed. Both ultimately were created by the "great designer" based on the complexity of the atoms which form the house and the rock. So ID finds design in everything.

Which is why using techniques that hint at man-made design fail for detecting design in general. Suddenly everything is designed and you have solved nothing. It does not help as a comparsion tool because you get the same result no matter what you test.


147 posted on 09/15/2005 4:01:22 AM PDT by TOWER
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To: TOWER
But along comes ID. ID says that both the house and the rock were designed. Both ultimately were created by the "great designer" based on the complexity of the atoms which form the house and the rock. So ID finds design in everything.




No, ID does not find design in everything. The overall process of life coming about is seen as exhibiting design as well as the necessity of natural laws and chance. That is not the same thing as seeing design in every individual object that exists.







Which is why using techniques that hint at man-made design fail for detecting design in general.



Actually the notion of applying the principles that hint at man made design to detect design in general is an accepted practice that is already in use. See below:


Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI)
One of the clearest examples of design detection can be found in the SETI
program. The SETI program is systematically scanning the heavens with radio telescopes,
searching for patterns of signals that could only come from intelligent sources.
149 posted on 09/15/2005 5:51:08 AM PDT by rob777
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