U.S. House backs hate crime measure protecting gays

Reuters ^ | 9-14-2005 | Joanne Kenen

[rennatdm]

I just needed the cash.............

[rennatdm]

Will they send me to federal-pound-me-in-the-ass prison if i'm caught? for a lousy mugging?I only got 10 bucks.

[television is just wrong]

No, a minority cannot commit a hate crime, because only white people hate. (sarcasm on/off). Unbelieveable, but true. that case of the asian shooter killing 5 white men on their private property because they were white is Not a hate crime.

[rennatdm]

Damn, I just hope that guy was STRAIGHT!!!!!!

[Ol' Sparky]

The size and scope of government has dramatically increased as has government spending. Nothing is being done about illegal immigration. Republicans are appointing maybes to replace originalists on the Supreme Court. And, now this.

What exactly have conservatives gained by electing Republicans and not holding them accountable for 10 years?

[Anthem]

If someone can be convicted of "intent to kill," how can that be done without motive?

Because they are convicted based upon the actions they took, not their thoughts.

Despite the often ridiculous response here regarding this bill, it is not simply about homosexuals. The problem with this law is that it attempts to ascribe motives based on what the prosecution believes are the suspect's thoughts. This level of subjectivity allows too much arbitrariness into the law, which is an age old recipe for tyranny.

An example would be if you had to shoot an attacker or intruder, and they were one of the perceived "oppressed" classes, you would run the risk of being prosecuted under a law like this. Regardless that you were the intended victim, laws like this can be used by agenda driven prosecutors to 'show that you did not really need to shoot the other person, but did it because you hate all ___________s (fill in the blank).

Don't think I'm exaggerating. I've sat in (divorce) court and had a judge decide I had ill motives, without a shred of evidence to support her decision, and significant evidence that in fact the opposite was true. Why? I was a white male in divorce court, bastion of the feminist agenda. The law courts of full of agenda driven prosecutors and judges and all they need is an arbitrary law like this to unleash their prejudices.

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