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Nuclear family gets nuked by the Gen-Xers
The Australian ^ | 9/15/05 | Bernard Salt

Posted on 09/15/2005 9:28:57 AM PDT by qam1

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1 posted on 09/15/2005 9:29:02 AM PDT by qam1
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ping to self.


2 posted on 09/15/2005 9:34:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; malakhi; m18436572; ...
Written about Australia, but parallels here to some extent

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Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

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3 posted on 09/15/2005 9:35:02 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Ahh, liberal philosophy at work destroying civilization.


4 posted on 09/15/2005 9:36:10 AM PDT by Frenetic
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To: qam1; Cacique

Those from a generation who's parents had such a high divorce rate are cynical about marriage. Who wants to tie the not when she will leave you in 5-10 years and take all your money?


5 posted on 09/15/2005 9:39:11 AM PDT by Clemenza (What's Puzzling You is Just the Nature of My Game)
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To: Frenetic

Not all of us are going to make the same mistakes are parents made. Many of us seen first hand how divoce destroys lives.

I am glad I have not made those same mistakes.


6 posted on 09/15/2005 9:41:14 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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This is just a natural change in society. With technological and economic progress, people want different things from their living and family arrangements than they used to. Those who are constantly wailing about how awful it is that the "nuclear family" is increasingly scarce, are conveniently forgetting that most of the people who are now choosing NOT to participate in such arrangements, did grow up in a "nuclear family" household. It must not have been nearly as wonderful as its cheerleaders claim, or more young adults would have fond memories of living in such families, and want to form similar ones. They certainly aren't making their choices out of ignorance of what "nuclear family" life is like.


7 posted on 09/15/2005 9:44:30 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: yellowdoghunter

A lot of people have also seen first hand how marriage can destroy lives, and are determined not to make that mistake.


8 posted on 09/15/2005 9:45:50 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: yellowdoghunter

The leading cause of divorce is marriage.


9 posted on 09/15/2005 9:45:54 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Clemenza; Cacique

not=knot


10 posted on 09/15/2005 9:46:20 AM PDT by Clemenza (What's Puzzling You is Just the Nature of My Game)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
This is just a natural change in society.

The name of that "natural change" is "death". Not many children, and the children there are will be raised without fathers. Plenty of evidence that fatherless kids end up with all sorts of issues not conducive to civilized behavior.

You want to see the ultimate result of that "natural change"? Look at New Orleans when the lights went out.

11 posted on 09/15/2005 9:47:41 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

WOW! I have never heard of a marriage destroying a life. It has been my experience that the person did not pick their life partner very well and ended up in a mess.

I am sure there are exceptions to that rule....


12 posted on 09/15/2005 9:47:45 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: taxed2death
The leading cause of divorce is marriage.

LOL!

Another example of why I love FR....always a witty, funny remark to be had....:)

13 posted on 09/15/2005 9:48:39 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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A lot of people have also seen first hand how marriage can destroy lives

Marriage never destroys lives. Selfishness and sin do that.

14 posted on 09/15/2005 9:48:42 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The change is natural, it is called the death of Western Civilization. Not by the sword, but by suicide. We in the west have simply decided not to continue on beyond ourselves. Most have become so short sighted that raising the next generation is viewed as a threat.

So revile in the past, and realize that the future has been aborted.


15 posted on 09/15/2005 9:50:25 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If it weren't for the fact that

a) The Muslims are having a lot of babies
and
b) The Social Security ponzi schemes

This wouldn't necessary be a bad thing. There's already too many people on this planet.

16 posted on 09/15/2005 9:52:49 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Huge numbers of those kids grew up in broken homes, have come not to trust relationships. It's not a natural shift, although it's happened in the past, too, especially near the end of the Roman empire when it became really a pain to try to raise a family because of the economic strictures the later emperors put on economic development...it's a shift away from the future, spawned not by the Xers, and not started by the boomers, although they were involved in it, but by a self-indulgent meme that perculated through a lot of the 20th century that decided a person's right to self-fulfillment meant that they could dump on the backs of their kids, leaving their kids in precarious situations.

Societies with weak family structures and no kids tend to crash when crisis time comes. The future will see if this paradigm holds true this time around.


17 posted on 09/15/2005 9:54:58 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Those who are constantly wailing about how awful it is that the "nuclear family" is increasingly scarce, are conveniently forgetting that most of the people who are now choosing NOT to participate in such arrangements, did grow up in a "nuclear family" household. It must not have been nearly as wonderful as its cheerleaders claim, or more young adults would have fond memories of living in such families, and want to form similar ones. They certainly aren't making their choices out of ignorance of what "nuclear family" life is like.

I think you nailed it.

18 posted on 09/15/2005 9:58:01 AM PDT by meowmeow (Meow! Meow!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Great points.

It started actually in the 1700's, during the Enlightenment (misnomer if I ever saw one). The focus was turned from God and family to Self. And the Self is a much more fun god to worship.
19 posted on 09/15/2005 10:00:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

The truth.


20 posted on 09/15/2005 10:00:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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