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1 posted on 09/17/2005 1:24:35 PM PDT by Lorianne
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"As a country with open-door refugee and social safety net policies, Canada is an ideal breeding ground for extremism, say researchers."


I wonder how those researchers explain extremism in places like Afghanistan and Indonesia. I'm not saying that Canada and Europe arent extremist breeding grounds, just that I don't think that's the real reason.


2 posted on 09/17/2005 1:28:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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. While the image of the bearded, robed Arab wearing a suicide vest comes to mind when the public thinks of terrorists, it is not reality.

Absurdly hilarious!

3 posted on 09/17/2005 1:32:02 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS--NOLA is just the latest example)
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“It is a ‘born-again’ process,” says French researcher Olivier Roy.

ROY -- You are an idiot.

9 posted on 09/17/2005 1:54:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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"But the effect is that orthodox imams and sheikhs across the West preach a message terrorists want to hear: Islam should be the only law, the West is corrupt and Muslims have a moral responsibility to jihad. One moderate American Muslim leader has suggested as many as 80% of the mosques in North America are run by Salafists spreading that message."

Sobering.


11 posted on 09/17/2005 2:20:00 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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The term “jihad” means “struggle.”

So if we translated it to German, would "jihad" be Kampf?

12 posted on 09/17/2005 2:20:28 PM PDT by Tredge (Your Democratic Party - A Cult in Search of its Personality)
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In the years since 9/11, almost every major terrorist act involving extremist Islam has been committed by a person raised in the West.

Astonishingly narrow thinking. He must be thinking of attacks only in the west. Unless you have a strict definition of "major", many attacks in Israel, Indonesia, Kashmir, etc. would count as well.

13 posted on 09/17/2005 2:22:21 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Lorianne
"While the image of the bearded, robed Arab wearing a suicide vest comes to mind when the public thinks of terrorists, it is not reality." Further proof I had the image in my mind wrong
14 posted on 09/17/2005 2:30:54 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Sept 11th was perpetrated by GOOD MUSLIMS www.prophetofdoom.com (thanx freeper that linked me there)
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To: Lorianne; Fred Nerks; justche; USF; jan in Colorado; AmericanArchConservative; fastattacksailor; ...
The problem with the (Salafist Islamic leadership) is that they condemn the terrorists actions but can’t condemn the religious ideas behind them, because they agree with them.’’

There is a tendency in humans to seek a kind of fulfilment that can only come from a closer relationship with God. And that's a fine thing, unless your god is the Allah of Islam.

As long as Islam is alive, there will be the call of martyrdom (shahada)...and that means dead innocent non-muslims. And wherever Islam comes into contact with the Judeo/Christian world, innocent Christians and Jews will be killed in the name of Islam.

So how is it that our government, on one hand, says "Islam is the religion of peace, one of the worlds great religions"...and then is shocked when Muslims kill people in the name of Allah? How can our government blame the terrorists BUT NOT the religion and the god that commands them to kill? The terrorists honestly think they are doing Allah's will (and they are).

Until this war on terror is directed at the real enemy, Islam, we will never win.

According to Carl von Clausewitz,

"The first, the supreme, the most far-reaching act of judgment that the statesman and the commander have to make is to establish...the kind of war on which they are embarking, neither mistaking it for, nor trying to turn it into, something that is alien to its nature." When policy-makers misstate the true dimensions of the conflict, not only do they mislead the public, but also they incur the risk of believing their own rhetoric, which will seriously impair their ability to defend their societies.

Source for Von Clausewitz quote:

"Democratic Universality and Its Adversaries" by Joel Fishman

15 posted on 09/17/2005 2:36:52 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: Lorianne

Jihad is the spreading of islam, by violence, if necessary.

This author should read Robert Spencer's, "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam".


17 posted on 09/17/2005 2:49:10 PM PDT by milford421
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-“...and none of them claim to be representing Islam,” says Khawaja.-

You must be kidding.


20 posted on 09/18/2005 6:08:55 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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I guess terrorism is just a figment of our collective imaginations.

Who would have thought?


21 posted on 09/18/2005 6:17:26 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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